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SK not bothered with draft constitution?
sokomjinga
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:39:00 AM
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@ Mtaalam, The new constitution (if there will be any) will not help sort out our problems. In fact,based on the proposals that have been made,I think it will just bring more problems to our beloved country. We know our main problems - the land question,corruption,impunity,mismanagement,tribalism,nepotism,outright theft of public resources etc. The constitution cannot do anything about that if our people will not respect it. No one in the current crop of leaders is ready to bring meaningful change ..... kilammoja anafikiri tumbo lake peke yake ....... All beginnings are difficult ..... ..... everything has an end,only a sausage has two.
Taunet Neelel ..... New Beginning .....
adept
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:41:00 AM
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I have always said it here: the new constitution is the single most over rated document in Kenya's history. Our problems have far less to do with the law than they do with respect for the law. I foresee a huge anticlimax and an ideology vacuum for people who have for all practical purposes pegged their lives on the passage of this document. That is assuming that the draft is indeed adopted. Then as usual,we will find a new scape goat to blame for the leadership problems in our country. Hata hivyo,a good step in the right direction. Maybe.
Tebes
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:52:00 AM
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Here is the draft finally. http://www.coekenya.go.k...d_Draft_Constitution.pdf Study,make submissions to the committee of experts within 30 days. Work like you will die tomorrow,plan like you will never die
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
Nandwa
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:53:00 AM
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Law is made for man not the other way round. We are the 10th wonder of the world
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Njunge
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:06:00 AM
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Is there a clause on recalling of Mpigs? Old man about town....
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
mtaalam
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:38:00 AM
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@sokomjinga, If that's what you'll feel after reading it then I suggest you vote NO. The point of changing the constitution is for systems to change because they do not work. It's like overhauling an engine of a vehicle or putting in a new one. If you feel the vehicle will perform the same or even worse after,then why bother? I've reached a point where I've realized that what we have now doesn't work and the crossbreed is even worse. At this point I'm very open to suggestions and I want my kid growing up in a sane Kenya. So,I have no choice but to be optimistic. ...ili iwe funzo!
FundamentAli
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:47:00 AM
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We can talk of this model versus that model. Yote ni bure kabisa. What kenyans need is an assurance for justice then we can beginning talking. Baada ya dhiki,faaraja
McReggae
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:41:00 PM
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The draft is now available can those who can read go through it then we can have an objective discussion regarding the same!!!!! The chief value of money lies in the fact that one lives in a world in which it is overestimated.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Kenya649
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:05:00 PM
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Can be downloaded at http://www.mediafire.com/?ezfzamzozd0 Thanks At first,I was iridescent. Then,I became transparent. Finally,I was absent
mtaalam
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:25:00 PM
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@ Njung'e 131. (1) The electorate under Articles 125 and 126 have the right to recall their member of Parliament elected before the expiry of the term of the relevant House of Parliament. (2) Parliament shall enact legislation to provide for the grounds on which a member may be recalled and the procedure to be followed. ...ili iwe funzo!
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