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Brazil hosting preparations are shambolic
urstill1
#21 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 6:21:06 PM
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Alba wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I also think this is just noise to ensure that in future only developed countries have the privilege of making cash out of other people's sweat.

For example. There is no reason why kasarani should not be good enough for a world cup match after a replacement of the playing surface and a repair of its facilities.
The world cup should be played in the same fields where brazilians play their domestic leagues.



I hope you realize that hosting Olympics and world cups are not actually profitable endeavors so your notion of making money out of other people sweat does not arise.

Greece hosted the Olympics and the debt they incurred played a role in precipitating their financial collapse years later.

Montreal hosted the games in 1976 and it took them 30 years to pay off the debt.

South Africa spent $3 billion. They sure as hell did not recoup that money. The number of visitors to SA in June and July 2010 was actually lower than during non-world cup years.

South Africa is now saddled with huge stadia that are white elephants. FIFA insisted on a new state of the art stadium in Cape town. The stadium is now rarely used and costs a fortune to maintain. Ditto the stadiums in places like Nelspruit.

Brazil is also building a number of white elephant stadiums in places like Manaus where the local team cannot draw more than 3000 fans per game. After the world cup, they will either have to spend tax payer money to maintain it or just demolish the stadium. It may be cheaper to demolish

As for the Olympics, most Olympics make a loss. The exception is when a country has all the facilities ready and there is no need to construct new ones.

With regard to Kasarani , the fact that it is not an all seater stadium disqualifies it from hosting FIFA events. never mind the fact that it has no luxury boxes, corporate hospitality, restaurants and other amenities that curry favor with FIFA. Oh and the running track makes the sight lines horrible. Fans need to be near the field.

The fact that you mention Kasarani shows we Kenyans are jokers. Only two stadia have been built in Kenya since independence.

See this article about Kenyan stadia. It has images of Zambia's gleaming new stadia


Kasarani is a Chinese donation. In the 80's there was a wave of Chinese donations in form of stadia to some Sub-saharan countries e.g. Kenya, Tanzania, DRC... more information can be found here.
butterflyke
#22 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:46:16 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I also think this is just noise to ensure that in future only developed countries have the privilege of making cash out of other people's sweat.

For example. There is no reason why kasarani should not be good enough for a world cup match after a replacement of the playing surface and a repair of its facilities.
The world cup should be played in the same fields where brazilians play their domestic leagues.



I hope you realize that hosting Olympics and world cups are not actually profitable endeavors so your notion of making money out of other people sweat does not arise.

Greece hosted the Olympics and the debt they incurred played a role in precipitating their financial collapse years later.

Montreal hosted the games in 1976 and it took them 30 years to pay off the debt.

South Africa spent $3 billion. They sure as hell did not recoup that money. The number of visitors to SA in June and July 2010 was actually lower than during non-world cup years.

South Africa is now saddled with huge stadia that are white elephants. FIFA insisted on a new state of the art stadium in Cape town. The stadium is now rarely used and costs a fortune to maintain. Ditto the stadiums in places like Nelspruit.

Brazil is also building a number of white elephant stadiums in places like Manaus where the local team cannot draw more than 3000 fans per game. After the world cup, they will either have to spend tax payer money to maintain it or just demolish the stadium. It may be cheaper to demolish

As for the Olympics, most Olympics make a loss. The exception is when a country has all the facilities ready and there is no need to construct new ones.

With regard to Kasarani , the fact that it is not an all seater stadium disqualifies it from hosting FIFA events. never mind the fact that it has no luxury boxes, corporate hospitality, restaurants and other amenities that curry favor with FIFA. Oh and the running track makes the sight lines horrible. Fans need to be near the field.

The fact that you mention Kasarani shows we Kenyans are jokers. Only two stadia have been built in Kenya since independence.

See this article about Kenyan stadia. It has images of Zambia's gleaming new stadia


Kasarani is a Chinese donation. In the 80's there was a wave of Chinese donations in form of stadia to some Sub-saharan countries e.g. Kenya, Tanzania, DRC... more information can be found here.


now i understand where that ivory M01 pretended to burn was going....SMH
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masukuma
#23 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:22:03 PM
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Alba wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I also think this is just noise to ensure that in future only developed countries have the privilege of making cash out of other people's sweat.

For example. There is no reason why kasarani should not be good enough for a world cup match after a replacement of the playing surface and a repair of its facilities.
The world cup should be played in the same fields where brazilians play their domestic leagues.



I hope you realize that hosting Olympics and world cups are not actually profitable endeavors so your notion of making money out of other people sweat does not arise.

Greece hosted the Olympics and the debt they incurred played a role in precipitating their financial collapse years later.

Montreal hosted the games in 1976 and it took them 30 years to pay off the debt.

South Africa spent $3 billion. They sure as hell did not recoup that money. The number of visitors to SA in June and July 2010 was actually lower than during non-world cup years.

South Africa is now saddled with huge stadia that are white elephants. FIFA insisted on a new state of the art stadium in Cape town. The stadium is now rarely used and costs a fortune to maintain. Ditto the stadiums in places like Nelspruit.

Brazil is also building a number of white elephant stadiums in places like Manaus where the local team cannot draw more than 3000 fans per game. After the world cup, they will either have to spend tax payer money to maintain it or just demolish the stadium. It may be cheaper to demolish

As for the Olympics, most Olympics make a loss. The exception is when a country has all the facilities ready and there is no need to construct new ones.

With regard to Kasarani , the fact that it is not an all seater stadium disqualifies it from hosting FIFA events. never mind the fact that it has no luxury boxes, corporate hospitality, restaurants and other amenities that curry favor with FIFA. Oh and the running track makes the sight lines horrible. Fans need to be near the field.

The fact that you mention Kasarani shows we Kenyans are jokers. Only two stadia have been built in Kenya since independence.

See this article about Kenyan stadia. It has images of Zambia's gleaming new stadia

so? we too can waste money just as others can!
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Alba
#24 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 3:05:41 PM
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Masukuma has run out of intelligent things to say
Alba
#25 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 3:07:12 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I also think this is just noise to ensure that in future only developed countries have the privilege of making cash out of other people's sweat.

For example. There is no reason why kasarani should not be good enough for a world cup match after a replacement of the playing surface and a repair of its facilities.
The world cup should be played in the same fields where brazilians play their domestic leagues.



I hope you realize that hosting Olympics and world cups are not actually profitable endeavors so your notion of making money out of other people sweat does not arise.

Greece hosted the Olympics and the debt they incurred played a role in precipitating their financial collapse years later.

Montreal hosted the games in 1976 and it took them 30 years to pay off the debt.

South Africa spent $3 billion. They sure as hell did not recoup that money. The number of visitors to SA in June and July 2010 was actually lower than during non-world cup years.

South Africa is now saddled with huge stadia that are white elephants. FIFA insisted on a new state of the art stadium in Cape town. The stadium is now rarely used and costs a fortune to maintain. Ditto the stadiums in places like Nelspruit.

Brazil is also building a number of white elephant stadiums in places like Manaus where the local team cannot draw more than 3000 fans per game. After the world cup, they will either have to spend tax payer money to maintain it or just demolish the stadium. It may be cheaper to demolish

As for the Olympics, most Olympics make a loss. The exception is when a country has all the facilities ready and there is no need to construct new ones.

With regard to Kasarani , the fact that it is not an all seater stadium disqualifies it from hosting FIFA events. never mind the fact that it has no luxury boxes, corporate hospitality, restaurants and other amenities that curry favor with FIFA. Oh and the running track makes the sight lines horrible. Fans need to be near the field.

The fact that you mention Kasarani shows we Kenyans are jokers. Only two stadia have been built in Kenya since independence.

See this article about Kenyan stadia. It has images of Zambia's gleaming new stadia


Kasarani is a Chinese donation. In the 80's there was a wave of Chinese donations in form of stadia to some Sub-saharan countries e.g. Kenya, Tanzania, DRC... more information can be found here.



That means since Independence, Kenya has only constructed one sports facility. Even playgrounds like Woodley and Jericho sports ground were built by wakoloni.

Speaking of Kasarani, I think constrcution started around 1983 or early 1984 and ended in 1987. And the Chinese are hard workers who dont waste time with useless bureaucracy. If it took the Chinese 4 years to construct Kasarani, I am having a difficult time believing Brazil will finish their Olympic stadium by 2016 if they havent started.

Muriel
#26 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 4:43:03 PM
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Alba wrote:
Masukuma has run out of intelligent things to say


Yes. Perhaps he is becoming a cabbage.
nakujua
#27 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 5:15:55 PM
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Alba wrote:

That means since Independence, Kenya has only constructed one sports facility. Even playgrounds like Woodley and Jericho sports ground were built by wakoloni.

Speaking of Kasarani, I think constrcution started around 1983 or early 1984 and ended in 1987. And the Chinese are hard workers who dont waste time with useless bureaucracy. If it took the Chinese 4 years to construct Kasarani, I am having a difficult time believing Brazil will finish their Olympic stadium by 2016 if they havent started.


A basic google search;

1. Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium
2. Maracana
bkismat
#28 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 6:35:07 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Alba wrote:

That means since Independence, Kenya has only constructed one sports facility. Even playgrounds like Woodley and Jericho sports ground were built by wakoloni.

Speaking of Kasarani, I think constrcution started around 1983 or early 1984 and ended in 1987. And the Chinese are hard workers who dont waste time with useless bureaucracy. If it took the Chinese 4 years to construct Kasarani, I am having a difficult time believing Brazil will finish their Olympic stadium by 2016 if they havent started.


A basic google search;

1. Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium
2. Maracana

Alba is just yapping.
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The Clown
#29 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 7:09:50 PM
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Alba wrote:
I hope you realize that hosting Olympics and world cups are not actually profitable endeavors so your notion of making money out of other people sweat does not arise.

Greece hosted the Olympics and the debt they incurred played a role in precipitating their financial collapse years later.

Montreal hosted the games in 1976 and it took them 30 years to pay off the debt.

South Africa spent $3 billion. They sure as hell did not recoup that money. The number of visitors to SA in June and July 2010 was actually lower than during non-world cup years.

South Africa is now saddled with huge stadia that are white elephants. FIFA insisted on a new state of the art stadium in Cape town. The stadium is now rarely used and costs a fortune to maintain. Ditto the stadiums in places like Nelspruit.

Brazil is also building a number of white elephant stadiums in places like Manaus where the local team cannot draw more than 3000 fans per game. After the world cup, they will either have to spend tax payer money to maintain it or just demolish the stadium. It may be cheaper to demolish

As for the Olympics, most Olympics make a loss. The exception is when a country has all the facilities ready and there is no need to construct new ones.



Alba, I agree with you on this one. Hosting tournaments such as the WC and Olympics is just like a wedding: spend lots of money, time and stress preparing for a brief event just to show off and please other people. When the event is over, all that remains behind are a few photos and a large deficit.
washiku
#30 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 7:59:15 PM
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Lolest!
#31 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 8:30:59 PM
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washiku wrote:
Pheew...they pulled it through. Applause Applause Applause

Did you see the stairs at the stadium used during BRA vs NED? Ilikuwa imebeat
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maka
#32 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 8:37:06 PM
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washiku wrote:
Pheew...they pulled it through. Applause Applause Applause

Sasa ndio mashida zinaanza their economy is in ruins.
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