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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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I gave up on Kenyan media a long time ago, no objectivity, research, wisdom etc just a bunch of half baked stories to beat the deadline. The only paper at least worth its salt is BD but hata hio i see some stupidity encroaching. “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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What do you think of such a headline "Comedy King Churchill reveals his greatest regret in 2013" Only to open and fins the whole story is based on Churchill's FB post. No effort to even talk to him or something... Tujinga tuo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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BTW, in today's Daily Nation, did anyone notice the merry christmas NTV ad on page 2?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Most of what we gave are just gossip-mongers/hunters masquerading as journalists. Areas or fields that require some technical knowledge (e.g economics, engineering, medical, law, etc) are ordinarily the most misreported. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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Rankaz13 wrote:Most of what we gave are just gossip-mongers/hunters masquerading as journalists. Areas or fields that require some technical knowledge (e.g economics, engineering, medical, law, etc) are ordinarily the most misreported. Perhaps they should recruit fellows with undergraduate degree in this technical areas and a post graduate degree/Diploma in Journalism. This way they would be able to synthesize technical information and relay them appropriately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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washiku wrote:MKWASI wrote:I'm just disturbed apparent lack of research by our Fourth Estate. The headlines in the dailies, their comments on social media shows some ignorance on some core issues. Sometimes am unable to distinguish their comments and the pedestrian talk. Where are our journalists trained and how is their curricular or is it their trainers? Some of them demonstrate fanatical following or are die-hards for certain politicians. Are journalists not supposed to be objective, no direct political affliations/ persuasions and tribal bigotry? Are there professional ethics for our fourth estate?
 You read my mind exactly. I was discussing this issue with a colleague in the office earlier. How many times have we seen a topic discussed here in Wazua and then a "journalist" does a story that is a copy paste, with nothing more to add? How many times have we seen a story on TV showing what the general public is saying about a certain legal issue without the "journalist" offering the actual correct position? These days they take what the politician says as gospel truth without any attempt to counter check the facts. By now, we should be knowing all details about the rail-way saga coz its an issue of utmost important to the nation. They should be offering facts that would help us tell who is telling the truth, yet all we are seeing is them reporting on what politician X said and what politician Y responded. No independent research at all even on obvious issues as comparisons of they type of railway in Ethiopia. I remember when TRUTHMETER started on Citizen, it used to show what a politician said and then counter it with the actual truth as per the law. These days it was converted to sarakasi show of which politician danced best. Had we even serious journalism in this country, the Wetangula issue would have been sorted by now, and @Ole lenku would not be feeling overwhelmed coz we would already be having the truth. I was told that our politicians have even known how to manage them, they just call them and pay them to write in a specific way. We even saw the other day on TV Sonko dictating the questions he wants to be asked by Jimmy Gathu. Most of the reporting they are doing on TV these days is what is already all over Twitter, Wazua, FB etc...watching TV to try and get a deeper analysis of an issue leaves you feeling you better follow on the discussion on Wazua where there might be intelligent interrogation of issues, goggles not withstanding. Its getting very bad... The railway project is one such case where our Fourth Estate should have interrogated the contract documents and compared that with the contract documents of Ethiopian Railway. They should have consulted a few Engineers on the BOQ quantities. They would also have done a research on procurement guidelines on government to government procurement and donor funded projects. Kindly note I'm not saying that the project is clean, but then we do not know the truth. The Fourth Estate followed our politicians...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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MKWASI wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Most of what we gave are just gossip-mongers/hunters masquerading as journalists. Areas or fields that require some technical knowledge (e.g economics, engineering, medical, law, etc) are ordinarily the most misreported. Perhaps they should recruit fellows with undergraduate degree in this technical areas and a post graduate degree/Diploma in Journalism. This way they would be able to synthesize technical information and relay them appropriately. They can consult experts in that area, they do not need to recruit experts. If you watch the BBC etc when they want an opinion on an issue, eg Middle east, Malaria, terrorism etc, they consult experts, mostly professors who are experts in that area. But Kenyan journalists run to politicians for expert opinion while the UoN is just a stone throw away.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2011 Posts: 396
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jaggernaut wrote:MKWASI wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Most of what we gave are just gossip-mongers/hunters masquerading as journalists. Areas or fields that require some technical knowledge (e.g economics, engineering, medical, law, etc) are ordinarily the most misreported. Perhaps they should recruit fellows with undergraduate degree in this technical areas and a post graduate degree/Diploma in Journalism. This way they would be able to synthesize technical information and relay them appropriately. They can consult experts in that area, they do not need to recruit experts. If you watch the BBC etc when they want an opinion on an issue, eg Middle east, Malaria, terrorism etc, they consult experts, mostly professors who are experts in that area. But Kenyan journalists run to politicians for expert opinion while the UoN is just a stone throw away. It costs approx. 5-10k to get your business profiled in the papers. Want to get on the Top 40 under 40? The Tech 30? The Top this or that? Look for 10-15k. Or buy some whiskies before deadline date. And so ad infinitum.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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jmbada wrote:jaggernaut wrote:MKWASI wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Most of what we gave are just gossip-mongers/hunters masquerading as journalists. Areas or fields that require some technical knowledge (e.g economics, engineering, medical, law, etc) are ordinarily the most misreported. Perhaps they should recruit fellows with undergraduate degree in this technical areas and a post graduate degree/Diploma in Journalism. This way they would be able to synthesize technical information and relay them appropriately. They can consult experts in that area, they do not need to recruit experts. If you watch the BBC etc when they want an opinion on an issue, eg Middle east, Malaria, terrorism etc, they consult experts, mostly professors who are experts in that area. But Kenyan journalists run to politicians for expert opinion while the UoN is just a stone throw away. It costs approx. 5-10k to get your business profiled in the papers. Want to get on the Top 40 under 40? The Tech 30? The Top this or that? Look for 10-15k. Or buy some whiskies before deadline date. And so ad infinitum. How are 'Journalists' AKA reporters fairing economically do they have surprise deposits in their accounts?? Who is supposed to report the Reporters in the Media. The long I have watched and listened to to various media stations I have never heard a story done on unethical Reporters or Reporters masquerading as journalists?? They also need to know the essence of reporting is communicating to the audience which I suppose is the core principle in Journalism. There are some Kiswahili reporters who use technical and complicated words to explain a situation in instances where they would have used simple words thus connecting with the masses...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Apparently, the rot is not just limited to local media. The Washington post recently reported that our very own Lupita Nyong'o is Nigerian. How does one run a newspaper or report for one when they're this ignorant? Must be one of those who think Africa is a country. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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