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IPSOS finally admits polls were skewed to favor UK
Impunity
#11 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:09:38 AM
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If madam Ireri was madam Ambitho am sure she would have been without any cloth cover by now,angesghafanyiwa all the abuse imaginable.
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McReggae
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:13:33 AM
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Impunity wrote:
If madam Ireri was madam Ambitho am sure she would have been without any cloth cover by now,angesghafanyiwa all the abuse imaginable.


I have asked in other threads why they are thumping their bony chests with a non national poll yet they have always rubbished the national ones.....non can respond!!!!!.......as Ireri continues to dine and wine with her people!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
xyzee
#13 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:14:05 AM
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QD wrote:
Cordeshians are really complaining. Now hey are giving questions like Kabando wa Kabando of

Sample size
Geographical coverage
Scientific backing of Kamwana jump past RAO.

Really when its in the other shoe.


@QD
Where did you get that?

The explanation was clear that the poll was about the debate and not popularity.

And I don't think anyone is disputing UK's oratory skills.
xyzee
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:17:51 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
If madam Ireri was madam Ambitho am sure she would have been without any cloth cover by now,angesghafanyiwa all the abuse imaginable.


I have asked in other threads why they are thumping their bony chests with a non national poll yet they have always rubbished the national ones.....non can respond!!!!!.......as Ireri continues to dine and wine with her people!!!


@mcreggea
Or maybe the polsters are now being regulated, that's why all of a sudden they are 'accurate'.
Much Know
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:19:42 AM
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I am convinced Ipsos are consistent and neutral pollsters. The ipsos guy explained how a debate with two leading 50/50 contenders, put together with 6 or more debtors rearranges the opinion distributions based on historical data from various countries elections, the phone poll conducted after the debate may not have been scientific, but is very consistent with expected scientific outcomes of such a scenario, he said this clearly in the interview. With a very high voter turnout, which is conceivable Jubilee might make slightly 51% but not the 70% being peddled by tyranny to water down the turnout. If jubilee voters do not turn out in large numbers, we might see a runoff or something else.
Ras Kienyeji Man
McReggae
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:37:13 AM
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Much Know wrote:
I am convinced Ipsos are consistent and neutral pollsters. The ipsos guy explained how a debate with two leading 50/50 contenders, put together with 6 or more debtors rearranges the opinion distributions based on historical data from various countries elections, the phone poll conducted after the debate may not have been scientific, but is very consistent with expected scientific outcomes of such a scenario, he said this clearly in the interview. With a very high voter turnout, which is conceivable Jubilee might make slightly 51% but not the 70% being peddled by tyranny to water down the turnout. If jubilee voters do not turn out in large numbers, we might see a runoff or something else.


He can now explain how opinion polls work Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ......the dude clearly said what he released does not in any way show that UMK is leading in national opinion polls, why are you trying so much to justify the polls you have been so violently opposed to????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
madollar
#17 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:39:30 AM
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McReggae wrote:
QD wrote:
Cordeshians are really complaining. Now hey are giving questions like Kabando wa Kabando of
Sample size
Geographical coverage
Scientific backing of Kamwana jump past RAO.

Really when its in the other shoe.




The pollster said the poss were not national, what is even there to complain about.....you are trying to hard to make it national....it wasn't!!!!


This dependency on polls is very dangerous whether done nationwide or in one estate who would have thought so close to the election UK would be ahead in a synovate pollLaughing out loudly
Much Know
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:45:11 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Much Know wrote:
I am convinced Ipsos are consistent and neutral pollsters. The ipsos guy explained how a debate with two leading 50/50 contenders, put together with 6 or more debtors rearranges the opinion distributions based on historical data from various countries elections, the phone poll conducted after the debate may not have been scientific, but is very consistent with expected scientific outcomes of such a scenario, he said this clearly in the interview. With a very high voter turnout, which is conceivable Jubilee might make slightly 51% but not the 70% being peddled by tyranny to water down the turnout. If jubilee voters do not turn out in large numbers, we might see a runoff or something else.


He can now explain how opinion polls work Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ......the dude clearly said what he released does not in any way show that UMK is leading in national opinion polls, why are you trying so much to justify the polls you have been so violently opposed to????


So why did he take the poll if it proves nothing? Please dig a post where i have criticized ipsos, i even went along with the infrotrack poll (Rao 51% uk 36%) till very serious and credible queries about objectivity came up, i believe they are using science, but infotrack deliberately skews the data collection!
Ras Kienyeji Man
Liv
#19 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:46:08 AM
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I don't support this poll. The sample does not still represent the population of the registered voters. IPSOS does not have the age and sex profile of the IEBC registered voters. the sample is based on some assumptions on these aspects which may not be correct.

I also believe some Kenyans are cheating on how they will vote.
kingfisher
#20 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:56:08 AM
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jameni... si mngojee march 4th... all these other arguments will come to naught after this milestone
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