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tycho
#21 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:00:47 PM
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The idea of restoration in the year of Jubilee is not only great, but it also needed by everyone in Kenya. Even the IDPs and chokoras.

It will truly help in healing Kenya, and the rest of the world.

I suggest then that all thieves be ready to surrender even symbols for the sake of all, and that we declare forgiveness for each and every act of surrender.

For this to happen, two extra players are needed: a facilitator- a politician, and a healer/high priest.

This duo must comprise the third force.
tycho
#22 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:22:20 PM
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Voting with my conscience means that voting is spiritual. I don't need a card to vote. I only need my will.

My vote is the tool that constructs property. It is my power. It is something I must use at all times.

Therefore, to offer my vote is to offer myself.

To cast a vote is to seal a conversation. The conversation of the free.

I cannot cast a vote without a conversation with the person needing my vote.

Is the campaign a conversation?

My vote is now complete.
quicksand
#23 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 1:42:05 AM
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Joined: 7/5/2010
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Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
Voting with my conscience means that voting is spiritual. I don't need a card to vote. I only need my will.

My vote is the tool that constructs property. It is my power. It is something I must use at all times.

Therefore, to offer my vote is to offer myself.

To cast a vote is to seal a conversation. The conversation of the free.

I cannot cast a vote without a conversation with the person needing my vote.

Is the campaign a conversation?

My vote is now complete.


Come back to earth bro. There is a certain software engineer ...I forget the name .... who said something profound and I will repeat its essence here ...he said if you fly too high up with abstractions, you will run out of air, choke and come crashing painfully back to earth.
A similar one is if your eyes are permanently on the horizon, you will not see the deep ditch you are about to fall into.
Take a chill pill dude, walk into a registration center, put your fingers on the thingie and on 4th March elect one of these people on the ballots. Or dont register. Very simple really. The age of philosophy died with akina plato and socrates. Science, engineering and business are the new kings ....get with the program smile
tycho
#24 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 8:23:13 AM
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@quicksand, before making the post you have quoted, I mistook the 'symbol' for the 'thing'.

And in discovering essence, do you appear and tell me that essence died with Socrates!

Now you tell me, King is the drone, the program, the balance sheet. The tool has become the master.

And you are saying that I should submit to such a world, else I will run out of air in the heavens and fall into the abyss.

But I remember last year at a time like this I was in the abyss! At the very rock bottom of it. Yes, I was below the earth that you deem safe.

But if one has been at the bottom of the abyss he has no other aspiration than the greatest height.

I have all those toys you are calling King, and in transcending them do I realize that I am King!

This is why and how my vote is complete.

A King must be. It doesn't matter how and when he will fall. And it may be that up high there is his eternal throne.

Has your software engineer been a King? Has he aspired to be one and failed? I know he got his story from Icarus and Daedalus. The tower of Babylon.

But what if the Sun embraces Icarus, or God the builder?

Throw away your chill pill and fly with me to where humanity needs to be.

I am more capable than you can imagine.

quicksand
#25 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:26:38 AM
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tycho wrote:
@quicksand, before making the post you have quoted, I mistook the 'symbol' for the 'thing'.

And in discovering essence, do you appear and tell me that essence died with Socrates!

Now you tell me, King is the drone, the program, the balance sheet. The tool has become the master.

And you are saying that I should submit to such a world, else I will run out of air in the heavens and fall into the abyss.

But I remember last year at a time like this I was in the abyss! At the very rock bottom of it. Yes, I was below the earth that you deem safe.

But if one has been at the bottom of the abyss he has no other aspiration than the greatest height.

I have all those toys you are calling King, and in transcending them do I realize that I am King!

This is why and how my vote is complete.

A King must be. It doesn't matter how and when he will fall. And it may be that up high there is his eternal throne.

Has your software engineer been a King? Has he aspired to be one and failed? I know he got his story from Icarus and Daedalus. The tower of Babylon.

But what if the Sun embraces Icarus, or God the builder?

Throw away your chill pill and fly with me to where humanity needs to be.

I am more capable than you can imagine.



I am a stark realist, therefore I get a bit short with very lofty ideas. There is a certain method to everything, certain immovables and constants that have been for a thousand years past and will remain a thousand years to come. Edison and Tesla defined electricity ...one with sheer genius of physics and the other ruthless business greed ..and because of the both them, we have seen tremendous leaps in human development. None of them was waxing lyrical half the time. It was all equations and business. Technology and tools (what you are calling toys) are not things to transcend ...they are part of the ecosystem and you couldn't live a normal, modern life without them. They process your taxes, bank statements, help manage hospitals which treat you when you are sick etc etc ...all these things are run by sober ladies and gentlemen, who rely on rather simpler rules of the need to be efficient, turn a profit, do trade and commerce, elect people who are sensible etc etc. There is no such thing as 'flight of humanity'. It is a series of many small, painful steps ...like electing rather sensible leaders who know a thing or two about revenue generation and spending, planning ...making good policy. Getting such people into office requires registering to vote, in a simple manner like I mentioned earlier ...trying to discern some sense in the leaders to be voted in. Icarus and the sun choosing somebody doesn't have to come to it. If the aspirants started talking about Icarus or flying humanity to where its supposed to be I would be really worried. Basics boss. You live in a house @tycho, dont you? An important thing the house. There is a reason why they dig into the ground for its foundation. The house is an important model for ideas as well, any useful ones usually have roots in the ground and have a continuity from bottom all the way to the top..My heroes are Tesla, Edison, to name a few ..my software guy ...who is a billionaire, that is as kingly as you can get. Without them you couldn't have replied to my post. I cant name one thing Socrates or Plato said ...which is all they did,..say stuff. Dont think I am any worse for it.
sanity
#26 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:23:43 AM
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Joined: 1/24/2011
Posts: 407
Location: Nairobi,Kenya
quicksand wrote:
tycho wrote:
@quicksand, before making the post you have quoted, I mistook the 'symbol' for the 'thing'.

And in discovering essence, do you appear and tell me that essence died with Socrates!

Now you tell me, King is the drone, the program, the balance sheet. The tool has become the master.

And you are saying that I should submit to such a world, else I will run out of air in the heavens and fall into the abyss.

But I remember last year at a time like this I was in the abyss! At the very rock bottom of it. Yes, I was below the earth that you deem safe.

But if one has been at the bottom of the abyss he has no other aspiration than the greatest height.

I have all those toys you are calling King, and in transcending them do I realize that I am King!

This is why and how my vote is complete.

A King must be. It doesn't matter how and when he will fall. And it may be that up high there is his eternal throne.

Has your software engineer been a King? Has he aspired to be one and failed? I know he got his story from Icarus and Daedalus. The tower of Babylon.

But what if the Sun embraces Icarus, or God the builder?

Throw away your chill pill and fly with me to where humanity needs to be.

I am more capable than you can imagine.



I am a stark realist, therefore I get a bit short with very lofty ideas. There is a certain method to everything, certain immovables and constants that have been for a thousand years past and will remain a thousand years to come. Edison and Tesla defined electricity ...one with sheer genius of physics and the other ruthless business greed ..and because of the both them, we have seen tremendous leaps in human development. None of them was waxing lyrical half the time. It was all equations and business. Technology and tools (what you are calling toys) are not things to transcend ...they are part of the ecosystem and you couldn't live a normal, modern life without them. They process your taxes, bank statements, help manage hospitals which treat you when you are sick etc etc ...all these things are run by sober ladies and gentlemen, who rely on rather simpler rules of the need to be efficient, turn a profit, do trade and commerce, elect people who are sensible etc etc. There is no such thing as 'flight of humanity'. It is a series of many small, painful steps ...like electing rather sensible leaders who know a thing or two about revenue generation and spending, planning ...making good policy. Getting such people into office requires registering to vote, in a simple manner like I mentioned earlier ...trying to discern some sense in the leaders to be voted in. Icarus and the sun choosing somebody doesn't have to come to it. If the aspirants started talking about Icarus or flying humanity to where its supposed to be I would be really worried. Basics boss. You live in a house @tycho, dont you? An important thing the house. There is a reason why they dig into the ground for its foundation. The house is an important model for ideas as well, any useful ones usually have roots in the ground and have a continuity from bottom all the way to the top..My heroes are Tesla, Edison, to name a few ..my software guy ...who is a billionaire, that is as kingly as you can get. Without them you couldn't have replied to my post. I cant name one thing Socrates or Plato said ...which is all they did,..say stuff. Dont think I am any worse for it.



Jargon....
Hope is not a strategy
bigbossman
#27 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:07:13 PM
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Joined: 1/14/2012
Posts: 201
Location: nairobi
tycho wrote:
@quicksand, before making the post you have quoted, I mistook the 'symbol' for the 'thing'.

And in discovering essence, do you appear and tell me that essence died with Socrates!

Now you tell me, King is the drone, the program, the balance sheet. The tool has become the master.

And you are saying that I should submit to such a world, else I will run out of air in the heavens and fall into the abyss.

But I remember last year at a time like this I was in the abyss! At the very rock bottom of it. Yes, I was below the earth that you deem safe.

But if one has been at the bottom of the abyss he has no other aspiration than the greatest height.

I have all those toys you are calling King, and in transcending them do I realize that I am King!

This is why and how my vote is complete.

A King must be. It doesn't matter how and when he will fall. And it may be that up high there is his eternal throne.

Has your software engineer been a King? Has he aspired to be one and failed? I know he got his story from Icarus and Daedalus. The tower of Babylon.

But what if the Sun embraces Icarus, or God the builder?

Throw away your chill pill and fly with me to where humanity needs to be.

I am more capable than you can imagine.


Yes, u are Man God.
LIFE IS SO GOOD
mkeiyd
#28 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:50:47 PM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 1,182
Its my belief that,keeping it simple makes life simpler n more fulfilling. To me,the essence of life is happiness.
Guys,keep it simple.Precise. Concise. To the point. Brief.
That‘s the only way we‘ll achieve more,be more effective,make a world a better place.
Otherwise if the simple act of choosing whom to elect can get this complex,what happens to the complex matters of this world?
What‘s the point of going into the science of making tissue paper,for you to take a swipe down there?
josiah33
#29 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 8:21:31 AM
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Joined: 1/27/2011
Posts: 1,777
mkeiyd wrote:
Its my belief that,keeping it simple makes life simpler n more fulfilling. To me,the essence of life is happiness.
Guys,keep it simple.Precise. Concise. To the point. Brief.
That‘s the only way we‘ll achieve more,be more effective,make a world a better place.
Otherwise if the simple act of choosing whom to elect can get this complex,what happens to the complex matters of this world?
What‘s the point of going into the science of making tissue paper,for you to take a swipe down there?

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