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Is the nose pincher entitled to all her financial dues?
Rahatupu
#11 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 11:46:37 AM
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maka wrote:
There is a difference between a protected Constitutional office and a normal contract of employment. Firstly examples abound of judges and constitutional office holders who were paid for the remainder of their term. Justice Ringera is one PLO is another the judges sent packing after the radical surgery are another lot. It is fallacious to suggest that since she resigned during the pendency of the appeal and within the statutory 14 day leave period she will not be entitled to her dues. The JSC Act 2011 is clear she still retained her post as Deputy CJ the President did not get the chance to terminate her, she resigned of her own volition and thus as per the Constitution her terms cannot be varied to her disadvantage
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Shame on you Shame on you , Why work to earn the money later than resign and earn the whole "stream" today? Why get the shilling tomorrow rather than today? If this were to be allowed then we'd have a very ugly situation whereby every bright constitutional office holder earns their life long pay today (by resigning) and goes to Hawaii on holiday.

The protection from arbitrary removal does not include own volition.
mukiha
#12 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 12:06:28 PM
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Which law are people applying when they say Baraza is entitled to the salaries for the remaining part of her term?

I have checked the Constitution and there is no such thing!

Which law? Please give Act, Chapter, Section and Sub-section [if applicable]

Otherwise, this is just public entertainment!
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mukiha
#13 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 12:10:07 PM
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BTW: That lawyer is talking about "terminal dues spelt out in her contract" Is the contract in the public domain? Who has seen it - except of course Baraza and JSC?
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QD
#14 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 12:39:43 PM
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maka wrote:
There is a difference between a protected Constitutional office and a normal contract of employment. Firstly examples abound of judges and constitutional office holders who were paid for the remainder of their term. Justice Ringera is one PLO is another the judges sent packing after the radical surgery are another lot. It is fallacious to suggest that since she resigned during the pendency of the appeal and within the statutory 14 day leave period she will not be entitled to her dues. The JSC Act 2011 is clear she still retained her post as Deputy CJ the President did not get the chance to terminate her, she resigned of her own volition and thus as per the Constitution her terms cannot be varied to her disadvantage


Remember the two you are talking about were removed by third parties in this case the parliament hence their entitlement to their pay of remaining terms.
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Elder
#15 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 12:43:20 PM
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maka wrote:
There is a difference between a protected Constitutional office and a normal contract of employment. Firstly examples abound of judges and constitutional office holders who were paid for the remainder of their term. Justice Ringera is one PLO is another the judges sent packing after the radical surgery are another lot. It is fallacious to suggest that since she resigned during the pendency of the appeal and within the statutory 14 day leave period she will not be entitled to her dues. The JSC Act 2011 is clear she still retained her post as Deputy CJ the President did not get the chance to terminate her, she resigned of her own volition and thus as per the Constitution her terms cannot be varied to her disadvantage

So in your opinion Justice Ringera and PLO resigned of 'their own volition' just like Justice Baraza? Maybe 'the judges sent packing after the radical surgery are another lot' also resigned of 'their own volition'? If that was true which law was used to support paying those who resign of their 'own volition' full salaries for years not worked for?

The part in red is a real muddle to me. Could you explain it further? The Constitution says that those who resign of their own volition cannot have their terms varied to their disadvantage? Rink please. And if true, which I doubt, once you resign which terms do you remain with?
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Zenge
#16 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 4:14:52 PM
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wizi, we should wait and see the mother of all litigations, the nose pincher is one fighter who doesnt gives up easily.
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