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Ruto on BBC Hardtalk........
McReggae
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:43:19 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
FYI I don't do any business...LOL


He said that???>.....ok!!!!
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:50:05 AM
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The interviewer allowed Ruto to ramble aimlessly at times Sad ...disappointing. Shouldn't have let him off the hook on the declaration of wealth
KulaRaha
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:07:29 AM
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I have no friends...there are no friends of Ruto....

We will spend money from friends to campaign...

Hilarious!
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chemos
#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:51:21 AM
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if this guy had a chebunyo!!!! wacha tu...
nakujua
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:22:02 AM
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maka wrote:
nakujua wrote:
smano wrote:
So kwani @nakujua was watching an edited version? Ama ni die hard fan, haoni msee akiwa cornered?

Anyway, will try and look for it on YouTube...


I am a die hard fan

...sema ukweli @nakujua,the guy rily found the questions moto moto.


what part was moto moto, Paraphrasing
steve - will you present yourself to the hague
wsr - I have doen it before , yes I will
steve - are you sure you will present yourself
wsr - yes
steve - even as president, will you present yourself
wsr - I thought I said I will

the interviewer is not balanced, he was trying to push to a particular direction.

I really think he handled himself pretty well.

the interviewer was actually put in a corner, when wsr asked him how he knew they would not get bail.
nakujua
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:28:31 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I have no friends...there are no friends of Ruto....

We will spend money from friends to campaign...

Hilarious!


the first part he was referring to the lobby groups, like the ones that have emerged to defend some politicians - so yes there is no friend of Ruto lobby group,
but yes he has friends who will contribute to his campaign kitty.
willin2learn
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:34:00 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
So now will UK also give an interview? LOL that would be hilarious!


Going by how he faired at ICC, it might not be as hilarious
Elder
#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:49:32 AM
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nakujua wrote:
maka wrote:
nakujua wrote:
smano wrote:
So kwani @nakujua was watching an edited version? Ama ni die hard fan, haoni msee akiwa cornered?

Anyway, will try and look for it on YouTube...


I am a die hard fan

...sema ukweli @nakujua,the guy rily found the questions moto moto.


what part was moto moto, Paraphrasing
steve - will you present yourself to the hague
wsr - I have doen it before , yes I will
steve - are you sure you will present yourself
wsr - yes
steve - even as president, will you present yourself
wsr - I thought I said I will

the interviewer is not balanced, he was trying to push to a particular direction.

I really think he handled himself pretty well.

the interviewer was actually put in a corner, when wsr asked him how he knew they would not get bail.

Then it seems like Ruto is not the only one who got or pretended to get the question wrong.

The interviewer's comment that, like Ruto before you, you are trying to spin to fit your purposes was:

Quote:
"...judging from the way the ICC works it is very unlikely you would be given bail.."
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Elder
#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:58:18 AM
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nakujua wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I have no friends...there are no friends of Ruto....

We will spend money from friends to campaign...

Hilarious!


the first part he was referring to the lobby groups, like the ones that have emerged to defend some politicians - so yes there is no friend of Ruto lobby group,
but yes he has friends who will contribute to his campaign kitty.

True. @KulaRaha's is out of context. It is clear he meant the lobby group that the interviewer claimed were intimidating witnesses.

Same as his 'I don't do any business' one, he went on to clarify that by that he means all of his undertakings are run by professionals. So what he was trying to communicate in my opinion was the fact that he doesn't personally run his businesses. Of course in saying that he avoided the addressing the question - how in Kenya politicians use their position to benefit their business and do not have say an independent body or trust to run them while they are in office and if his businesses benefit from his political position.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
maka
#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:12:05 PM
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Elder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I have no friends...there are no friends of Ruto....

We will spend money from friends to campaign...

Hilarious!


the first part he was referring to the lobby groups, like the ones that have emerged to defend some politicians - so yes there is no friend of Ruto lobby group,
but yes he has friends who will contribute to his campaign kitty.

True. @KulaRaha's is out of context. It is clear he meant the lobby group that the interviewer claimed were intimidating witnesses.

Same as his 'I don't do any business' one, he went on to clarify that by that he means all of his undertakings are run by professionals. So what he was trying to communicate in my opinion was the fact that he doesn't personally run his businesses. Of course in saying that he avoided the addressing the question - how in Kenya politicians use their position to benefit their business and do not have say an independent body or trust to run them while they are in office and if his businesses benefit from his political position.

...then thats being sly and not honest,he chose to answer his own questions,if I own a supermarket,yes am running a business even though I dont physically head it its still mine,am the beneficial owner...he should have said i am in the insurance business etc though am not involved in the day to day running of the said businesses.
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grolut
#31 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:30:28 PM
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Here is the link for those who have not watched it.
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smano
#32 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:55:09 PM
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grolut wrote:
Here is the link for those who have not watched it.


Eh?
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nakujua
#33 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:59:48 PM
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Elder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
maka wrote:
nakujua wrote:
smano wrote:
So kwani @nakujua was watching an edited version? Ama ni die hard fan, haoni msee akiwa cornered?

Anyway, will try and look for it on YouTube...


I am a die hard fan

...sema ukweli @nakujua,the guy rily found the questions moto moto.


what part was moto moto, Paraphrasing
steve - will you present yourself to the hague
wsr - I have doen it before , yes I will
steve - are you sure you will present yourself
wsr - yes
steve - even as president, will you present yourself
wsr - I thought I said I will

the interviewer is not balanced, he was trying to push to a particular direction.

I really think he handled himself pretty well.

the interviewer was actually put in a corner, when wsr asked him how he knew they would not get bail.

Then it seems like Ruto is not the only one who got or pretended to get the question wrong.

The interviewer's comment that, like Ruto before you, you are trying to spin to fit your purposes was:

Quote:
"...judging from the way the ICC works it is very unlikely you would be given bail.."


he went on to describe the process so far, and the fact that they have been abiding to the conditions laid out, that's why they have not been jailed and judging by that, there is no reason to believe it won't continue the same way.

but my point was, when he was asked about the bail issue, I though I noticed some hesitation from his side.
nakujua
#34 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:06:27 PM
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maka wrote:
Elder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I have no friends...there are no friends of Ruto....

We will spend money from friends to campaign...

Hilarious!


the first part he was referring to the lobby groups, like the ones that have emerged to defend some politicians - so yes there is no friend of Ruto lobby group,
but yes he has friends who will contribute to his campaign kitty.

True. @KulaRaha's is out of context. It is clear he meant the lobby group that the interviewer claimed were intimidating witnesses.

Same as his 'I don't do any business' one, he went on to clarify that by that he means all of his undertakings are run by professionals. So what he was trying to communicate in my opinion was the fact that he doesn't personally run his businesses. Of course in saying that he avoided the addressing the question - how in Kenya politicians use their position to benefit their business and do not have say an independent body or trust to run them while they are in office and if his businesses benefit from his political position.

...then thats being sly and not honest,he chose to answer his own questions,if I own a supermarket,yes am running a business even though I dont physically head it its still mine,am the beneficial owner...he should have said i am in the insurance business etc though am not involved in the day to day running of the said businesses.

I think running bigger businesses has a certain level of complexity, and I don't see any dishonesty in stating that its professionals who run your business, or a business in which you have shares in.
Mastermind
#35 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:16:24 PM
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chemos wrote:
if this guy had a chebunyo!!!! wacha tu...


What is that? ...The interview is in today's edition of the Star
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