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mnandii
#21 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 4:27:44 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
I don't like commenting on politicians including RAO but this RAO fellow has gone too far. I have my f@#king money in this business and some politicians writes a letter which has direct effect on my investment just because he wants votes??? I hate this busy body tendency especially when my hard earned cash is involved! Why does a fellow feel he should intefere in anything and everything from cattle dip affairs to Airline business just because he holds a position we never voted for?

Are we a communist country? This is a capitalist country and KQ is a publicly listed company. Someone get the fellow a dictionary and a book in basic economics! And I agree, this is not a FISH MARKET!!!

A politician can yap all he wants and give all the stories and promises he wants and I wouldn't care one bit! But when you start messing with my money/investment, then we have a problem!!!!

Agreed on every other point bt this fish market analogy is in bad taste.Sad
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#22 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 4:58:04 PM
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mnandii wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
I don't like commenting on politicians including RAO but this RAO fellow has gone too far. I have my f@#king money in this business and some politicians writes a letter which has direct effect on my investment just because he wants votes??? I hate this busy body tendency especially when my hard earned cash is involved! Why does a fellow feel he should intefere in anything and everything from cattle dip affairs to Airline business just because he holds a position we never voted for?

Are we a communist country? This is a capitalist country and KQ is a publicly listed company. Someone get the fellow a dictionary and a book in basic economics! And I agree, this is not a FISH MARKET!!!

A politician can yap all he wants and give all the stories and promises he wants and I wouldn't care one bit! But when you start messing with my money/investment, then we have a problem!!!!

Agreed on every other point bt this fish market analogy is in bad taste.Sad


What about "this is not a mbosho market" analogy?
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#23 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 5:43:43 PM
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mnandii wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
I don't like commenting on politicians including RAO but this RAO fellow has gone too far. I have my f@#king money in this business and some politicians writes a letter which has direct effect on my investment just because he wants votes??? I hate this busy body tendency especially when my hard earned cash is involved! Why does a fellow feel he should intefere in anything and everything from cattle dip affairs to Airline business just because he holds a position we never voted for?

Are we a communist country? This is a capitalist country and KQ is a publicly listed company. Someone get the fellow a dictionary and a book in basic economics! And I agree, this is not a FISH MARKET!!!

A politician can yap all he wants and give all the stories and promises he wants and I wouldn't care one bit! But when you start messing with my money/investment, then we have a problem!!!!

Agreed on every other point bt this fish market analogy is in bad taste.Sad

Ditto! Bad taste indeed..and odour. Shame on you
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#24 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 6:22:24 PM
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The Absalom trait again! Maybe PM means Populist Man. Was the letter copied to newsrooms to give someone political mileage? No wonder the other day he told us that the courts are fake. He cant respect their decisions!
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#25 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 8:17:08 PM
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Political pronouncements aside - why does KQ always undertake retrenchment to bolster their performance?
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#26 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 8:22:15 PM
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Ondiek wrote:
Political pronouncements aside - why does KQ always undertake retrenchment to bolster their performance?


KQ's Mission is to maximize in profit making, not to create employment. Notice, they are acquiring new planes 787 that consume less fuel, greater capacity and covering long distances.
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#27 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 9:19:24 PM
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@ Murchr - profit maximisation is every organisation's goal (even the NGOs that claim not to be profit making) but when an organisation keeps on carrying out retrenchments then some fundamentals are wrong.
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#28 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 9:21:05 PM
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Top executives of Kenya Airways have seen their pay rise by 24 per cent in a year that also saw the airline report drops
http://www.businessdaily...6/-/10kufp7/-/index.html
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#29 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 9:33:06 PM
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Ondiek wrote:
@ Murchr - profit maximisation is every organisation's goal (even the NGOs that claim not to be profit making) but when an organisation keeps on carrying out retrenchments then some fundamentals are wrong.


Not always, most of the jobs that go down the drain are non-core jobs meaning that if KQ can outsource the services elsewhere at a cheaper cost then that means the company is just restructuring so that it can be compete effectively. eg. For example should KQ hire IT personnel or should they outsource the service from a firm that specializes in IT . etc And NGOs dont return profits. At the end of the year they should report how well they used the funds
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mnandii
#30 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:07:44 PM
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murchr wrote:
Ondiek wrote:
@ Murchr - profit maximisation is every organisation's goal (even the NGOs that claim not to be profit making) but when an organisation keeps on carrying out retrenchments then some fundamentals are wrong.


Not always, most of the jobs that go down the drain are non-core jobs meaning that if KQ can outsource the services elsewhere at a cheaper cost then that means the company is just restructuring so that it can be compete effectively. eg. For example should KQ hire IT personnel or should they outsource the service from a firm that specializes in IT . etc And NGOs dont return profits. At the end of the year they should report how well they used the funds

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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#31 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:40:49 PM
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sometime back KQ fired top managers and their strategy is to out source Air Hostesses and stewards to concentrate on Core function.In the long run they will be more profitable and employ more pilots,any person will understand this unless of course ur a fish monger
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#32 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 1:13:52 AM
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sorry to say but this is this is the "big african man" buffoonery that we don't need in our beloved KQ.


Eissshhh ....thats a zinger and a half ...even I winced kidogo, but you are spot on. I hope these leaders read about what people are saying on forums ...may the unflattering remarks will lift them out of the dense cloud of foolishness that seems to engulf them.
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#33 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 7:05:49 AM
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now he wants olympia Directors to stay put and disregard CMAsmile smile smile smile
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#34 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 8:39:27 AM
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now he wants olympia Directors to stay put and disregard CMAsmile smile smile smile

Are you f@€king kidding me? This had better be a bad joke!
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sparkly
#35 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 9:05:35 AM
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quicksand wrote:
sparkly wrote:

sorry to say but this is this is the "big african man" buffoonery that we don't need in our beloved KQ.


Eissshhh ....thats a zinger and a half ...even I winced kidogo, but you are spot on. I hope these leaders read about what people are saying on forums ...may the unflattering remarks will lift them out of the dense cloud of foolishness that seems to engulf them.


caveat: My comments should be taken strictly in a business perspective, as a shareholder of KQ. No political or tribal motives should be imputed into my statements.

>>>> Just to clarify in case lady admin is considering usering...
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#36 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 9:16:27 AM
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Impunity wrote:
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A communist to the core n risky for investmentsSad Sad


Suppose your dad was in line for the axe and you were a second year in some university/college?
Shame on you


Sad but illogical! Are you purporting business=social support?
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#37 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 11:05:07 AM
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sparkly wrote:
quicksand wrote:
sparkly wrote:

sorry to say but this is this is the "big african man" buffoonery that we don't need in our beloved KQ.


Eissshhh ....thats a zinger and a half ...even I winced kidogo, but you are spot on. I hope these leaders read about what people are saying on forums ...may the unflattering remarks will lift them out of the dense cloud of foolishness that seems to engulf them.


caveat: My comments should be taken strictly in a business perspective, as a shareholder of KQ. No political or tribal motives should be imputed into my statements.

>>>> Just to clarify in case lady admin is considering usering...


it has been long since lady admin ushered somebody; last was qw.....

anyway on this 1, OAR is off the mark! Let the forces of demand and supply of labour prevail.
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#38 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 11:06:43 AM
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gesowan wrote:
now he wants olympia Directors to stay put and disregard CMAsmile smile smile smile


Rink ama hate speach
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#39 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 11:21:54 AM
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This are warning signs, don't say you were never told.
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#40 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 11:29:07 AM
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Lucid_Iam wrote:
This are warning signs, don't say you were never told.


It's always good to make this conclusion based on facts. Where is the link about Olympia Capital?
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