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Bring our troops home
Rahatupu
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:35:20 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
A time has come when Kenyans should standup and demand our troops who are in harms way in hostile terrains of Somalia back. They have performed their duties with dedication and patriotism .every Kenyan is proud of them. Reasons are;
- this is ideological war which fanatics already think religion as the reasons. We know you can never win against such propaganda .

It is not an ideological war, AS are mere criminals perpetuating chaos so that they can continue looting Somalia - read their relationship with the pirates. they have tried to make it a religious war but the war-weary Somalis have seen Somali Kenya KDF officers and know it is NOT. The foreign fighters have tried to make it religious war but the ordinary Somalis have no stomach for them esp.the suicide bombing tactics these fighters have come with as well as extremist Islam - indeed that is where the public tide against AS started changing, rem bombing at a graduation in Mogdishu


-the economical effects in a country like kenya is massive
we are being refunded for all our war costs except for our naval assets by UNSC, so what econ effects again? BTW, so much magendo stuff like sukari was coming in to Kenya through Kismayo,Mandera thus distorting our economy n threatening jobs. Saa hii ni very low or hata hakuna! And illegal arms being used in Nairobbery..

-our leaders invaded a failed country without a clear plan on how to end the war

Our exit plan is already in place! Si we re-hatted to AMISOM the other day when our troops donned green berets? The delay in taking Kismayu is because our guys are helping develop a political structure that will take over power once AS are routed by Aug 2012 so that there's no power vacuum. Believe u me if it was a purely military solution KDF would have started taking tea in Kismayu ages ago.

- we share a common border meaning very vulnerable to the fanatics obsessed and having a zeal to inflict destruction to life and property.

Ordinary Somalis are moderates, its the few wakoras who throw in religion to try confuse poor Somali youths that it is jihad. Did you see the way ordinary Somalis ignored AS calls to take up arms against our troops juzi? Umeona vile KDF were being welcomed into liberated areas?And if the Iranians' arrest juzi is an example we clearly have other players to worry about rather than AS whose capabilities have been severely weakened

- due to hardships and less opportunities our people can easily be recruited complicating already severe situation .

Dude this is a weakness of our homeland security i.e our cops, Immigration and local security teams who were asleep when the Omondis & Weres were being recruited under their noses in Majengo and Pumwani Nbi, and who are selling our citizenship (ID/ PP) for huge sums . Totally nothing to do with OLN

- harmony of Kenyans is weak. That means in case another PEV 2013,(God forbid) the consequences and alshabab terrorists within, it will be a serious security problem.
Again our homeland security is very weak.

- many of our officers are highly corrupt. Meaning easier for terrorism to operate.ethiopians despite being in Somalia for long have very few if any random attacks. Reasons their people are individually highly patriotic and love for their country.
etc...

Again our homeland security, the weak link in our security chain

I suggest:
- pull the troops out immediately
Not when they are about to accomplish their mission

-create a buffer zone in the border . Like 50 km and deploy the army currently in Somalia .
That was one of the mission objective, huh?!
- close all refugees camp in kenya. Daadab etc. build refugees camp in the southern Somalia . Let it be secured by international community and others involved .
Agreed 100%

-Somalia should be divided.kenya can start by recognizing the peaceful
Somali land . Use Her diplomacy to campaign for dividing Somalia .
Western powers and Somalis are opposed to balkanization of Somali, one reason why U.S.& Brito were unhappy when OLN was launched. Consensus would be required, but ngumu sana


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
McReggae
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:39:54 PM
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Intelligensia...great response to the diasporian there!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Tokyo
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:18:16 PM
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When we are done with Westgate crisis , we should demand OUR TROOPS BACK FROM Somalia
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poundfoolish
#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:34:04 PM
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Before we went to Somalia the bigots were still attacking us..

98 ring a bell..?

Kikambala?

The Norfolk?
McReggae
#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:39:46 PM
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We must continue crushing the bigots to PULP1!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Lolest!
#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:10:33 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Before we went to Somalia the bigots were still attacking us..

98 ring a bell..?

Kikambala?

The Norfolk?

EXACTLYApplause Applause

There were very many attacks including abductions of govt officials

Don't swallow the stupid enemy lie that it's about Kenya's invasion of Somalia!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Am
#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:10:46 PM
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We Must continue hunting them down, crush their balls, extract semen and feed flies on it. IDIOTS.
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
sky5
#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:14:28 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
When we are done with Westgate crisis , we should demand OUR TROOPS BACK FROM Somalia


This is EXACTLY what the AS* wants. DON'T swallow their bait this early. They had expected much more casualties and unrestricted media coverage with all the ugly images. But the discipline of the media has been commendable and I (IMHO) don't think AS* achieved most of their objectives in the attack.

WE MUST UNRELENTLESSLY PURSUE THEM, SMOKE THEM OUT OF EVERY HIDEOUT & PERMANENTLY CRUSH THEM.

tycho
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:17:27 PM
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Am wrote:
We Must continue hunting them down, crush their balls, extract semen and feed flies on it. IDIOTS.


There's something odd about using terror to conquer terror. That is, it only gives us more terror, and terrorists.
McReggae
#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:26:06 PM
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tycho wrote:
Am wrote:
We Must continue hunting them down, crush their balls, extract semen and feed flies on it. IDIOTS.


There's something odd about using terror to conquer terror. That is, it only gives us more terror, and terrorists.


The people on the other side do not understand your language my friend!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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