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TNA - I Believe
TAZ
#21 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 9:01:09 AM
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wazua wrote:
Dear Members,

Let's keep it constructive.

The Wazua spirit



Applause Applause Applause Thank you!

i also appreciate the following rules from NMG on Political advertising.

The 11 rules

1) Any political ad/advertorial submitted for publication or as an infomercial for TV, radio or online shall be vetted and published or aired only when it passes NMG's Guidelines for Political Advertising.

2) Any material designed as advertorials or infomercials shall be clearly branded or signposted as Advertising Feature or Advertiser's Announcement or Advertising Documentary. If the advertisement is from a political party, it shall carry an identifying logo for the party that has been registered with the Electoral Commission of Kenya, or is being used consistently by the party. The logo or other identifier should be displayed in a clearly visible or legible manner in print and online, and for at least three seconds, either at the beginning or end of each television message.

3) Advertisement scripts must provide contact details, i.e. name of sponsoring individual, group, organisation or institution and an address.

4) In the event that NMG has any doubts about the identity of the sponsoring organisation or group, it will insist on a telephone contact to verify sponsors' bona fides. A letter of authority from the party accompanying the advertisement will suffice.

5) Advertisements shall be rejected outright if they contain the following:

a) Obscene or profane language or pictorial representation that, when taken in context, tends to or is likely to expose an individual or a group or class of individuals to hatred or contempt on the basis of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, sexual orientation, age or mental or physical disability.

b) Unwarranted attacks on the election agendas of rivals. Candidates/parties, sponsors, lobbyists shall, however be allowed to promote their own election agendas.

c) If they are obscure and touting bizarre messages, and invoking the name of God.

d) Press cut-outs/rug-outs and archived footage shall be rejected except where they are used to rebut or clarify claims that have been made publicly and were reported in mainstream media.

6) Advertisements shall avoid exposing innocent relatives or friends of candidates to unwarranted political ridicule or hostility.

7) Political advertisements shall avoid projecting material out of context for purposes of driving a propagandist home.

8) Reasoned and factual comments on parties' or candidates manifestos should confine themselves to the issues actually raised by rivals, and maintain a moderate tone and language.

9) Placement: Political advertisements in NMG newspapers shall only appear after the Opinion - Editorial pages.

10) Advertisements should be sent to NMG for at least 24 hours in advance, but certainly no less than 12 hours before the time of the scheduled broadcast or print.

11) Political advertising shall not be aired or published in NMG outlets 24 hours prior to Election Day, and most definitely not on polling date itself.
McReggae
#22 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 9:08:38 AM
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Plagiarised speeches galore!!!!

It's now officially and two horse race:

It's Raila Vs Uhuru!!!

......those who had hoped to gain from Ocampo cases are in for a rude shock!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
essyk
#23 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 9:41:44 AM
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There's something about public Euphoria.It's like a drug.
love the pomp,the swag,the eloquence and the colours.

But it's high time we understood that a party is only but a vehicle to help one reach their destination.It never brings about change!
Never has.

Look beyond the party and critically analyse a leader's past development record.
Analyse the people he is counting on to help him achieve his goal.
A new party on an experienced and visionary leader is rejuvinating.
A new party on a hopeless one is like painting an old house without filling the cracks first.


Journalist: so what do you think about TNA'?

Woman: Hii TNA ni mzuri kwa maana tunahitaji maendeleo.
Italeta maendeleo na maendeleo ni mzuri kwa maana itatusaidia kuendelea.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Much Know
#24 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 10:35:15 AM
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TNA Tunapenda Ndom + Alcohol
The Wazua Spirit

Ras Kienyeji Man
nostoppingthis
#25 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 11:07:34 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Plagiarised speeches galore!!!!

It's now officially and two horse race:

It's Raila Vs Uhuru!!!

......those who had hoped to gain from Ocampo cases are in for a rude shock!!!!!


I wonder what Ruto's choice is? and If "his people" will follow him there...

What's the difference between "Yes we can" and "I believe"?
kivairu
#26 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 11:23:00 AM
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Atalaku wrote:
TNA - Tuko Na Agwambo



Laughing out loudly!

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
smano
#27 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 11:25:59 AM
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Much Know wrote:
TNA Tunapenda Ndom + Alcohol
The Wazua Spirit




Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause

Frankly speaking there's no party in Kenya that holds any longstanding ideals/policy objectives etc etc - we are still in the stoneage as far as political idealism is concerned.

I looked at the whole machinery that had been assembled to perpetuate this "I believe" show and felt a growing sense of apathy - same script, same cast, different "party"....

Let's not fail to see the writings on the wall - the ruling cast will once again spit at our faces,and the well oiled political machineries will win the day...and status quo will prevail.d'oh!
BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
wilyum
#28 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 11:32:03 AM
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i admired the whole event setup,i wonder where the money to setup all that came from.

bt deep down i kept asking myself,when will we get to issues based politics entrenched in parties,and not individuals,who are out to run after their dreams instead of kenyan dream.
Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad


mkeiyd
#29 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:09:11 PM
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I didn't like how they kept [especially the secretary] on bashing the second liberation guys. Saying guys who took to the streets didn't do more than the mothers who cooked for them.
Where does the story of mothers who cooked for the second liberation guys come into Uhuru and TNA?
How can you just bash facts with rhetoric of transformation?
Are we done with reforms?
Was Uhuru cooking for anyone?

Believing in changing facts and circumstances to suit one's ambition is downright desperate and pathetic.

Of Uhuru and correcting the historical injustices, how he gonna do that?
Forget the assassinations of 1960s and 1970s,grabbing of swathes of land in the 60s n 70s. What has he done in the last 10 years to project a man bend on bringing justice to Kenyans? Any bill to the floor? Any demo on the streets? WHAT?

He had a colorful launch, good job. When you are the richest man around,affording the best ain't the hardest of tasks.
xyzee
#30 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:18:32 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
[quote=McReggae]Plagiarised speeches galore!!!!

It's now officially and two horse race:

It's Raila Vs Uhuru!!!

......those who had hoped to gain from Ocampo cases are in for a rude shock!!!!!


I wonder what Ruto's choice is? and If "his people" will follow him there...

What's the difference between "Yes we can" and "I believe"?[/q]

The biggest headache for G7 is how to consolidte their votes.

I asked a friend of mine (a youth leaders in WR's URP) for his opinion, and according to him (as a person) given a choice between UK/RAO he would rather vote RAO.
Djinn
#31 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:20:50 PM
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What was wrong with KANU? Why do we always have to see new political parties each time we have an election? Is there a law to govern this? It seems its a thing of convenience to set up a party, load it will all sorts of recycled politicians, get into power, rule, then discard the party and start all over again?

I am not holding my breath. In fact I have lost ALL faith in the system in Kenya. Even Karua and Kenneth - they have each done the math and trust me they will go to bed with those they have spoken against. Right now they will ask you to focus on issues - but they will ally themselves with sullied politicians and parties to make the numbers.

I am not voting this time around...I have Hobsons choice. We all do but some of us do not know it since we are deeply ensconced in tribal cocoons or mired in ignorance. We still look at the individuals and not the policies or manifestos. We look to tribe and numbers.

Djinn
#32 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:27:27 PM
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smano wrote:
Much Know wrote:
TNA Tunapenda Ndom + Alcohol
The Wazua Spirit




Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause

Frankly speaking there's no party in Kenya that holds any longstanding ideals/policy objectives etc etc - we are still in the stoneage as far as political idealism is concerned.

I looked at the whole machinery that had been assembled to perpetuate this "I believe" show and felt a growing sense of apathy - same script, same cast, different "party"....

Let's not fail to see the writings on the wall - the ruling cast will once again spit at our faces,and the well oiled political machineries will win the day...and status quo will prevail.d'oh!


I agree smano - and hardly surprised at your apathy. Let it not be our votes that put these people in power. Others will argue that it is out votes that will keep them out of power....but do we have any good choices for 2012/2013? Quite frankly I do not see any - at least in two senses:

1 - Any NATIONAL candidate who has hope of succeeding without allying themselves to the rotten ones to attain the desired numbers.
2 - Any national candidate who has hope of succeeding without leaning too much on tribe to attain numbers. I am not saying one should not be from the top 4-5 tribes - just that they will invariably use their tribe numbers to get at least 20-30% of their individual votes.

2012
#33 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:27:41 PM
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wilyum wrote:
i admired the whole event setup,i wonder where the money to setup all that came from.




Are you serious?

BBI will solve it
:)
nostoppingthis
#34 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:33:57 PM
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Joined: 8/24/2009
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2012 wrote:
wilyum wrote:
i admired the whole event setup,i wonder where the money to setup all that came from.




Are you serious?


Possibly historical injustice smile

Seriously though, now that Okampo wants to postpone trials until March 2013, how does this affect the elections? Where does that leave the Uhuruto Union? Who's ego will allow one to step down?..clearly UK had more flamboyance in his launch than the URP candidate (but then again, that's not what we need as a country)...
Dash
#35 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 12:38:31 PM
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wilyum wrote:
i admired the whole event setup,i wonder where the money to setup all that came from.

bt deep down i kept asking myself,when will we get to issues based politics entrenched in parties,and not individuals,who are out to run after their dreams instead of kenyan dream.
Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad



They have already fulfilled their dreams. They fight so much for these positions so that their greatest grand children live the same dream
madollar
#36 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:06:36 PM
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uhuru is day dreaming if he think will be the 4th president of kenya with the new katiba it will be a miracle for a kyuk to be a president ever again as he will always make it to the run off then all other communities will be uniting for the other candidate
redondo
#37 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:24:30 PM
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madollar wrote:
uhuru is day dreaming if he think will be the 4th president of kenya with the new katiba it will be a miracle for a kyuk to be a president ever again as he will always make it to the run off then all other communities will be uniting for the other candidate


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Issues should be first not tribe!
Ngogoyo
#38 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:39:23 PM
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madollar wrote:
uhuru is day dreaming if he think will be the 4th president of kenya with the new katiba it will be a miracle for a kyuk to be a president ever again as he will always make it to the run off then all other communities will be uniting for the other candidate


Are you a Tunapenda Ndom+Alcohol since your opinion must be driven by the two ingredients?

Just state your position not other people more so other communities.

As for me i will vote not
faa
#39 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 2:40:10 PM
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Djinn wrote:
What was wrong with KANU? Why do we always have to see new political parties each time we have an election? Is there a law to govern this? It seems its a thing of convenience to set up a party, load it will all sorts of recycled politicians, get into power, rule, then discard the party and start all over again?

I am not holding my breath. In fact I have lost ALL faith in the system in Kenya. Even Karua and Kenneth - they have each done the math and trust me they will go to bed with those they have spoken against. Right now they will ask you to focus on issues - but they will ally themselves with sullied politicians and parties to make the numbers.

I am not voting this time around...I have Hobsons choice. We all do but some of us do not know it since we are deeply ensconced in tribal cocoons or mired in ignorance. We still look at the individuals and not the policies or manifestos. We look to tribe and numbers.



True. Let those who think politicians can help them vote
TAZ
#40 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 3:30:50 PM
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madollar wrote:
uhuru is day dreaming if he think will be the 4th president of kenya with the new katiba it will be a miracle for a kyuk to be a president ever again as he will always make it to the run off then all other communities will be uniting for the other candidate


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