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Virgin Withdrawal of flights.
Ali Baba
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:31:34 PM
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VKY: I know that.But even if you book 6 months in advance....its still expensive than others.I have FF miles,but not with Virgin.
Chaka
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:40:17 PM
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eti "..insufficient passenger numbers over the past five years.."
I believe these guys carry more cargo i.e flowers and veges when passenger numbers are low..?
essyk
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:19:26 AM
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Chaka wrote:
eti "..insufficient passenger numbers over the past five years.."
I believe these guys carry more cargo i.e flowers and veges when passenger numbers are low..?


True that.

But being a pax airline they focus more on passengers not cargo.
Stiff competition must made them reconsider.
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FundamentAli
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:22:32 AM
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The Euro crisis is bigger than you know. Passengers and cargo numbers are heading south. Trade with Europe world wide is facing a serious decline. The growth proponents might have a point. I would not be surprised to see other airlines following suit.
Impunity
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:13:29 PM
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This was never their kind of market,things like premier-economy cant sell in subsaharan Africa,to us economy class is economy and charge as such.Sleeper-cubicles costing USD 10,000 cant sell anywhere north of river Limpompo!
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hisah
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:31:01 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
The Euro crisis is bigger than you know. Passengers and cargo numbers are heading south. Trade with Europe world wide is facing a serious decline. The growth proponents might have a point. I would not be surprised to see other airlines following suit.

As a reminder. Airlines were put on notice sometime back in March 2012. When you have the CEO of IATA stating on mainstream media that airlines will go bust this year, you have to take things seriously. Already a number of airlines have failed this year. Just google for the info.

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Emirates, the biggest airline by international traffic, said more carriers will go bust this year as fuel costs and sluggish economies undermine profitability.

“We can reel off a whole load of airlines that are teetering on the brink or are really gone,” Tim Clark, the Dubai-based carrier’s president, said in an interview. “Roll this forward to Christmas, another eight or nine months, and we’re going to see this industry in serious trouble.”

Airline profits will plunge 62 percent in 2012 to $3 billion, equal to a 0.5 percent margin on sales, as oil prices rise, the International Air Transport Association said this week. Emirates’s fuel bill accounts for 45 percent of costs and may jump by an “incredibly challenging” $1.7 billion in the year ending March 31, according to Clark, who says he’s sticking with a no-hedging strategy rather than risking a losing bet.

“You think you’re going to win, but in the long term you always lose,” Clark said yesterday at the Gulf carrier’s head office near Dubai International Airport. “When we enter into derivatives, betting whatever it may be with counter-parties who actually control the price of fuel in the first place, you have to ask yourself, ‘Is that smart?’”


http://www.bloomberg.com...il-in-fuel-squeeze.html

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Robinhood
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:37:50 PM
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At least virgin is leaving because of a tough business climate. There was a time when BA left Kenya owing to those crazy terrorist warnings their gava used to give to sabotage Kenya. KQ quick devised a new tagline for their adds ' we are with you forever' or something like that. When BA finally decided to come back, the market was firmly with KQ. They soon started complaining of unfair advertising etc. They have since learnt to ignore their gaa'ments terrorism warnings - I think they still issue them.
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Murenju
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:20:17 PM
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Good for KQ and BA. I wonder why I am smilig even though I do not hold KQ shares. It may be the lunch I got from Virgin when they entered the Kenyan market.
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madollar
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:37:48 PM
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not was it only a business decision but a very emotional one for sir richard branson

Branson added: 'Virgin Atlantic is extremely sad to be withdrawing from Kenya...Virgin remains committed to the future of Kenya and it is a well known fact that I love the country and its people. For the past five years our team in Nairobi have worked incredibly hard and we hope to return should the economic situation change.'

http://www.dailymail.co....-rising-fuel-costs.html

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