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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Can somebody unumerate MM's allies in ODM who are not happy apart from One Kizito?? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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kingfisher wrote:madollar wrote:one thing is for certain he has created buzz like no other presidential aspirant and also does not polarize the country all he needs now is good campaign team to package him and come 2013 we may be hearing mimi wycliffe musalia mvdavadi .......... hapo umenena. lakine atafute mbass kwanza.... ata ile a "swing county" inatosha yeye Si he should just resign and go,kwani mbona whinning all ove the place? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Can somebody unumerate MM's allies in ODM who are not happy apart from One Kizito?? And what wait does this Kizito have? Is he a first time Mpig? Is he rich enough to fund a MM presidential campaign? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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McReggae wrote:Robinhood wrote:What happens tp MM if he pulls out of ODM only for G2 to change their minds? They have done so before... Likely scenario, another mistake coming his way, remember these guys know the guy cannot even secure a by-election in Western, was a VP who was then beaten for an mpig position!!! .....on the other hand, what if Raila has decided on a different running mate from MM??? methinks he'll go for sally kosgei. He's desperate for the rift valley vote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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C & P, any body from Western to confirm this?......or guka for that matter? Q: Why can't RAO wake up and name a running mate from among the Bukusu once and for all, if he must have a running mate form the Luhya block? 1. BUSIA COUNTY; the sub-tribes that matter there - Samia, Banyala, Marachi and Khayo - are all 'Luonised' people in fact, it is very hard to differentiate their culture (not tradition) & girls, from one another until..... infact, Marachis were Luo 'outcasts' so they say. They'll vote. 2. KAKAMEGA COUNTY; Wanga and Marama are the direct progenitors of the Sakwa people of Bondo. The Kisa and Batsotso are but one with the Marama. Count the votes. ... Idakho and Isukha matter most, they tend to vote in their MPs according to their clans, but give presidential votes as the Marama, Kisa and Wanga. 3. VIHIGA COUNTY; Only the Banyore will vote to a man for anybody other than a Maragoli. the late Sabstone really terrorised them and they've never forgotten. Amongst the Maras, if MM ditches ODM for another party, let him remember Akaranga. 4. BUNGOMA COUNTY, the Bukusus over the years never vote for anybody else other than their own and they are many and they control the Tachoni, Banyala (ba Ndombi), and Sabaots. Wafula wa Musamia prophesied that leadership shall only come to them via the lake. RAO should show them now is the time for the prophesy to be fulfilled. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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McReggae wrote:C & P, any body from Western to confirm this?......or guka for that matter?
Q: Why can't RAO wake up and name a running mate from among the Bukusu once and for all, if he must have a running mate form the Luhya block?
1. BUSIA COUNTY; the sub-tribes that matter there - Samia, Banyala, Marachi and Khayo - are all 'Luonised' people in fact, it is very hard to differentiate their culture (not tradition) & girls, from one another until..... infact, Marachis were Luo 'outcasts' so they say. They'll vote.
2. KAKAMEGA COUNTY; Wanga and Marama are the direct progenitors of the Sakwa people of Bondo. The Kisa and Batsotso are but one with the Marama. Count the votes.
... Idakho and Isukha matter most, they tend to vote in their MPs according to their clans, but give presidential votes as the Marama, Kisa and Wanga.
3. VIHIGA COUNTY; Only the Banyore will vote to a man for anybody other than a Maragoli. the late Sabstone really terrorised them and they've never forgotten. Amongst the Maras, if MM ditches ODM for another party, let him remember Akaranga.
4. BUNGOMA COUNTY, the Bukusus over the years never vote for anybody else other than their own and they are many and they control the Tachoni, Banyala (ba Ndombi), and Sabaots.
Wafula wa Musamia prophesied that leadership shall only come to them via the lake. RAO should show them now is the time for the prophesy to be fulfilled.
Conspiracy theories will be many and varied - all calculated to (mis)inform the King that he has a very nice suit - birth suit. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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@Nandwa, Conspiracy theories have counters, you gonna provide any concerning the dynamics of Western Kenya!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Wapi comprehensive statement? MM angeona mbali kama twiga...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Me think MM has place himself between a rock and a hard place now.If he quits he appears coward, if he stays ODM he still coward weak. Former will appear as if he cant fight within and win, latter appears he cant make a bold decision to bolt out. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/28/2007 Posts: 45
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('  @McReggae, that is a poor attempt at trying to analyse politics in Western Kenya. ODM's popularity has nothing to do with closeness to Luo. It is more to do with the clout Raila has.. Infact, if the issue of being Luo was a factor it will work against ODM. Raila is popular in western period, this does not rely on Mudavadi, Khalwale or Wetangula. The only risk for Raila is a smear campaign that will take a tribal tone, tribal chauvinism and a reminder of Raila's relationship with Wamalwa. By the way you have quoted Wafula wa Musamia a former trade unionist!!! What has he got to do with prophesying the presidency. Stick to your day job and avoid political analysis. Bottomline Mudavadi has less than 20% of western vote, less than 3% of national vote and less outside ODM or with New Ford Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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tajiri wrote:(' @McReggae, that is a poor attempt at trying to analyse politics in Western Kenya. ODM's popularity has nothing to do with closeness to Luo. It is more to do with the clout Raila has.. Infact, if the issue of being Luo was a factor it will work against ODM. Raila is popular in western period, this does not rely on Mudavadi, Khalwale or Wetangula. The only risk for Raila is a smear campaign that will take a tribal tone, tribal chauvinism and a reminder of Raila's relationship with Wamalwa. By the way you have quoted Wafula wa Musamia a former trade unionist!!! What has he got to do with prophesying the presidency. Stick to your day job and avoid political analysis. Bottomline Mudavadi has less than 20% of western vote, less than 3% of national vote and less outside ODM or with New Ford Kenya Now tajiri with all due respect respond to a post after reading it well and soberly, the post starts with "C & P" in wazua that mean "copy and paste", I then go ahead to ask if someone from western can confirm this, then you respond with a hammer on my head......kwanu umevuto nini asubuhi hivi jameni? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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McReggae wrote:C & P, any body from Western to confirm this?......or guka for that matter?
4. BUNGOMA COUNTY, the Bukusus over the years never vote for anybody else other than their own and they are many and they control the Tachoni, Banyala (ba Ndombi), and Sabaots.
Biggest piece of crap I've ever heard. You wont make RAO popular by describing communities in this manner.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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kollabo wrote:McReggae wrote:C & P, any body from Western to confirm this?......or guka for that matter?
4. BUNGOMA COUNTY, the Bukusus over the years never vote for anybody else other than their own and they are many and they control the Tachoni, Banyala (ba Ndombi), and Sabaots.
Biggest piece of crap I've ever heard. You wont make RAO popular by describing communities in this manner. @Kollabo, kwani what do they refer to, educate me!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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And i had thought only GEMA and KAMATUSA are thinking in tribal lines? Kwani, ni nini imebadilika? Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,038 Location: GA
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this guy is being discussed everywhere .radio shows, bars ,markets etc and rarely do all the major newspapers have a common headline unless a calamity has happened
iko kitu hapa
tuju ,peter kenneth ,olekiyapi and the other presidential wannabes must be scratching their heads
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 161 Location: nairobi
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madollar wrote:this guy is being discussed everywhere .radio shows, bars ,markets etc and rarely do all the major newspapers have a common headline unless a calamity has happened
iko kitu hapa
tuju ,peter kenneth ,olekiyapi and the other presidential wannabes must be scratching their heads
I think its a case of the more juicy story. The media loves drama and intrigues. what's there to report about Tuju, wiper, Martha and the rest?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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madollar wrote:this guy is being discussed everywhere .radio shows, bars ,markets etc and rarely do all the major newspapers have a common headline unless a calamity has happened
iko kitu hapa
tuju ,peter kenneth ,olekiyapi and the other presidential wannabes must be scratching their heads
Let's see if the same buzz will remain if/after he leaves for G7 or New Ford Kenya!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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Now PM releases statement. And since when did Barack Muluka become his PR chief? http://www.nation.co.ke/...78/-/gy8861/-/index.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/22/2010 Posts: 510 Location: De egg
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It was Kalonzo then Ruto halafu Balala then me and now Mudavadi. Who next ? Peace be with you
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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maligumu wrote:It was Kalonzo then Ruto halafu Balala then me and now Mudavadi. Who next ? Ngilu then Gumo then Ababu then all non-Kisumu MPs! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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