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The life and times of a kenyan doctor
Dash
#16 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:33:20 PM
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This is a NATIONAL crisis wapi prezzo and pm??? wapi nyongo and mugo??? Nonsense. Can this GOK get its head out of the sand and start dealing with the problem? Or are the waiting for the private doctors nto join the strike? The kawaida mwananchi is suffering more than they normally do. And it is up to the GOK to take the docs more seriously and end this
digitek1
#17 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:27:00 PM
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@bwenyenye spot on. Most of the drs who quit are pararell since due to their backgrounds cannot stomach working in the bunduz. In any case does this mean the ones remaining are the ones who cant get absorbed in private sector. Let the govt call their bluff and see....ati resign enmasse..paleeeze
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jguru
#18 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:50:05 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
@bwenyenye spot on. Most of the drs who quit are pararell since due to their backgrounds cannot stomach working in the bunduz. In any case does this mean the ones remaining are the ones who cant get absorbed in private sector. Let the govt call their bluff and see....ati resign enmasse..paleeeze


Poorly-thought and unfortunate comment. Shame. Generalisations are a crass attempt at argument.

I know of many "regular" doctors who have quit government jobs and have proceeded to go work abroad. By private sector you mean Aga Khan, Nairobi, AAR, Avenue, Nairobi West, Nairobi Women's, Getrudes, MP Shah and so on? The remuneration and working conditions in these organisations are not any better. Healthcare in Kenya needs a revolution. And it should start with giving adequate pay to the doctors to whom Kenyans place huge responsibilities on their mental and physical well-being.
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
famooz
#19 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:46:37 PM
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I do not know if they represent common Mwananinchi or just personal gain.....all i know is that there was a dark and extra low moment when these guys- the top cream of the country,as in grey matter wise ( ok,some of them) vunjad that gate.That move was very 'Sonko-like',If you have been wondering why Sonko is a member of parliament,wonder no more.
tycho
#20 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:10:48 PM
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Doctors need to appreciate the fact that the political and administrative system in Kenya has failed, and consequently, not even a strike will resolve matters.

Perhaps the way forward is to champion for the privatisation of all health institutions and pushing the government to specialize on subsidizing patients costs, and to seek citizen support by stimulating enterpreneurship and identifying with new and progressive leaders.

I guess this would mean 'guerilla' tactics and greater commitment to political dialogue, but then they have to make some sacrifices. After all, don't they form the cream of our society? They should start the construction of a new system.
Kratos
#21 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 7:49:31 AM
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Sad state of affairs. In my humble opinion I think Kenyans ought to support the Doctors strike fully. These are the same people we entrust with our lives. Some arguments coming off the woodwork from the likes off Bwenyeye are really unfortunate if not pompous! Why are some Kenyans in the habit of downplaying other peoples rights? It is about time doctors got a fair remuneration. In my opinion ,all hospitals should be run with a mix of administrators and medical professionals. The working hours for doctors should be reviewed and more Kenyans encouraged to get into the medical field.
Its funny that someone points out that the same doctors have opened Chemists that are selling drugs, did you expect people who have peanuts for a salary to open hardware stores to supplement their income which is everybody's right? SMHPray Sad


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Kratos
#22 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 8:47:50 AM
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To add on, the same government through the national assembly is acquiring chairs worth 200k per piece. Now in my rudimentary calculation, The total cost of chairs will be around Kshs 70 mil (350 seats x 200,000)not including the senate (68 seats)that will also order the same chairs come next year.
While all this is going on, a quick search into the internet shows that a basic dialysis machine may be going for around USD 6,000 or lower depending on the manufacturer etc.. Now the Kshs 70mil would be able to buy approx 137 BASIC dialysis machines.Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Sad Sad Sad Pray Pray

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Lolest!
#23 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 9:14:44 PM
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Strike called off. Tokeni wazua mrudi kazi. Dkt Murenj kapotelea wapi?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
McReggae
#24 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:25:48 AM
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......and back on strike as patients die coz of lack of medical attention!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
simonkabz
#25 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:14:06 AM
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Who to blame? Docs or gava? I think gava should take responsibility for every death. I feel the docs are at war for the sake of the country, esp hospital eqpt n staffing. Fight on guys, this govt knows no other language.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Lucid_Iam
#26 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:25:05 AM
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The flip-flopping by Docs is not good for them. They will lose the goodwill they already have with the rest of Kenyans. Looking at them try and argue their point on why they are re-calling the strike made them look more like politicians.
Pablo
#27 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:17:25 PM
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Actually if you run a business your best customer is the one who tells you that you stink. Most of them just move.

The world is a global village and people are human beings. Everyone wants a good (or at least bearable) life for themselves and their families.

The good Doctors like Kamundu are the ones on strike. The others left a long time ago. I hope we realise that these guys are not korogewad in those hospitals.

Whether the strike is over or not. Alot needs to be done.
McReggae
#28 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:21:02 PM
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...and since they had called off the strike, the new strike is illegal as they did not give sufficient notice, ask one UK!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Ms Mkenya
#29 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:28:21 PM
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I only hope this strike helps us see doctors employed in the public sector show up on time at work, work all their hours and leave when they should. And thus earn their pay...

That is all i ask.
....above all, to stand.
jguru
#30 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:51:43 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
I only hope this strike helps us see doctors employed in the public sector show up on time at work, work all their hours and leave when they should. And thus earn their pay...

That is all i ask.


The strike has officially been called off after voting was done by members of KMPDU at a Special Delegates Conference at Ufungamano this afternoon. Doctors are the laughing stock of all Kenyans at the moment. Liar
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