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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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Well taken goals by Man utd, the forward players are having a good game. In terms of the officiating i think Man City have every right to appeal Kompany's red card and i have to agree with the commentators i don't even think it was a foul.
Anyway, Mancini has to replace Nasri and Kolarov if he wants to get anything from this game.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Scholes ON for Nani Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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as a liverpool fan, i am just enjoying the match. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Jus Blazin wrote:Scholes ON for Nani i bet theh substitute was to avoid Nani earning a Red card after being booked earlier on. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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Sober wrote:as a liverpool fan, i am just enjoying the match. True, great game of football for a neutral! Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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did i see a hand ball? African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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City were ROBBED by the referee! I will say this again, as I had said it before, the refereeing this season has been ATROCIOUS! Anyway, City played their hearts out! Kudos! Kudos! Kudos! Mancini made the right changes in the second half. But IMHO, he should have taken Nasri off instead of Silva. Men of the match: De Jong and Milner. Outstanding. Jones and Lindegaard are over-rated. And should Scholes and Giggs still be playing at 37 years of age? Can we have another match like this in the Europa League? Over two legs? That would be brilliant. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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jguru wrote:City were ROBBED by the referee! I will say this again, as I had said it before, the refereeing this season has been ATROCIOUS! Anyway, City played their hearts out! Kudos! Kudos! Kudos! Mancini made the right changes in the second half. But IMHO, he should have taken Nasri off instead of Silva. Men of the match: De Jong and Milner. Outstanding. Jones and Lindegaard are over-rated. And should Scholes and Giggs still be playing at 37 years of age? Can we have another match like this in the Europa League? Over two legs? That would be brilliant. Robbed? How now? Weren't United denied a penalty when Kolarov fouled Valencia in the box? Wasn't it a two-footed tackle from Kompany which Nani evaded? I know many haters wanted United beaten, but admit, it was a thrilling game. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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The only thing that made this game interesting was Man City's attempted come back otherwise ref aliharibu game. Kompany won the ball and he didn't catch Nani because he managed to avoid the tackle, nothing wrong with that. In football hakuna "what if", Nani didnt even claim anything....we've seen worse tackles getting away with a yellow card or warning.
@Jus....true the ref was pathetic because he also denied City a penalty after Jones clearly handled the ball. Good goals by Man Utd but very poor officiating. Btw isnt this the same ref who cost Spurs points against Stoke!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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TAZ wrote:The only thing that made this game interesting was Man City's attempted come back otherwise ref aliharibu game. Kompany won the ball and he didn't catch Nani because he managed to avoid the tackle, nothing wrong with that. In football hakuna "what if", Nani didnt even claim anything....we've seen worse tackles getting away with a yellow card or warning.
@Jus....true the ref was pathetic because he also denied City a penalty after Jones clearly handled the ball. Good goals by Man Utd but very poor officiating. Btw isnt this the same ref who cost Spurs points against Stoke! @Taz, two footed challenge (read FIFA Law 12 ), you have to give it to Nani for avoiding the tackle. But it showed that both Kompany's feet left the ground before the tackle. About Jones, well, there's ball-to-hand. But again, all these depend on the which side you lean on. There's someone who said United showed their class in keeping possession. I know many will argue, but, we are still the team to beat. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/16/2010 Posts: 158 Location: world
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4th Round draw Brighton or Wrexham v Newcastle
Sunderland v Middlesbrough
Dagenham & Redbridge v Southampton
Hull City v Crawley
MK Dons or QPR v Chelsea
West Brom v Norwich
Blackpool v Sheffield Wednesday
Arsenal or Leeds v Aston Villa
Stevenage v Notts County
Watford v Tottenham
Liverpool v Manchester United
Derby v Stoke City
Everton v Fulham
Macclesfield or Bolton v Swansea
Sheffield United v Birmingham or Wolves
Nottingham Forest or Leicester v Swindon
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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FA Cup 4th Round Draw
Brighton/Wrexham Vs Newcastle Sunderland Vs Middlesbrough Dagenham & Redbridge Vs Southampton Hull City Vs Crawley MK Dons/QPR Vs Chelsea West Brom Vs Norwich Blackpool Vs Sheffield Wednesday Arsenal/Leeds Vs Aston Villa Stevenage Vs Notts County Watford Vs Tottenham Liverpool Vs Manchester United Derby Vs Stoke City Everton Vs Fulham Macclesfield/Bolton Vs Swansea Sheffield United Vs Birmingham/Wolves Nottingham Forest/Leicester Vs Swindon (Matches to be played on the weekend of 28th and 29th January 2012.) Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Round 4: LIVERPOOL vs MAN UNITED!!!!! Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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A good day for Pensioners, but on the other hand Chris Foy is a disgrace! Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/13/2011 Posts: 660
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watu wa man-city tunalilia chooni
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/13/2006 Posts: 2,589
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Someone told me that Man Utd have made the best January signing - Chris Foy to replace the aging Howard Webb! For me the Kompany tackle was not even a yellow card. But the ref just followed the rule book that says any two footed challenge (both feet off the ground kwanza)is dangerous play. Of course it changed the entire match. However, in the end, we were barely hanging on to the win,no thanks to Scholes and Lindergaard for the 2nd goal - seems we don't have goalkeepers that can keep thir cool in big matches;goalie dropped the ball twice - first to allow Kun to follow up for the 2nd and then Kolarov's last ditch free kick which could have gone anywhere. Hope De Gea picks up fast! Oh how I miss Vidic,8 goals conceded in 2 games!Mancini reckons they'll now win the EPL after losing the FA.His side fought valiantly, after the 2nd City goal, it didn't look like they were playing with 10 men!They are surely a force to reckon with. Next up Liverpool at Anfield - not the fortress it once was. I'm hopeful with players returning. BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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c & p
"The biggest criticism you can make of a referee, is that he overshadows games that he officiates. Chris Foy, through that phenomenon, is becoming the poster-child for the introduction of video technology.
Two red cards in the QPR against Chelsea game, a clusterf*** of ineptitude through Stoke/Tottenham, and today’s series of poor decisions at Etihad Stadium. In all of those fixtures, the points were decided by the referee rather than the players. Yet again in a match overseen by Foy, we’re talking more about him than we are the football.
It’s not the pace of the game that’s rendering officials in this country so inept, nor is it a lack of understanding of the rules; instead, it’s a lack of common sense in our referees combined with there being too much scope for objectivity in the rules.
Vincent Kompany’s tackle of Nani wasn’t the product of malice, because frankly he’s not that stupid. A Premier League defender and a captain of a club doesn’t make a ‘reckless’ tackle inside the first half-an-hour of a cup tie against his side’s most bitter rival. Now, he may very well mistime a tackle, but that’s a yellow card – unless he’s using ‘unnecessary aggression’ or denying a clear goalscoring opportunity, he should be staying on the pitch.
Spare a thought for the players – one game’s fair tackle is another’s straight red card. When pundits and fans talk about consistency, this is what they mean. Given how low the footballing IQs of our referees seem to be, surely it’s time to take the interpretation element out of the rules that govern contact between players.
On a side note, I thought the way in which Vincent Kompany reacted to his red card was outstanding – a captain’s example. Other City players may have bawled and screamed over the decision, but the Belgian just accepted it – regardless of its controversy. That’s quite rare in football now."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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C&P Blaming the referee isn't always the answer For City, the temptation was to blame Chris Foy. They booed him off the pitch at the end. There were cries of "fix" and "cheat" and, at half-time, Roberto Mancini's right-hand man, David Platt, was waiting for him at the entrance of the tunnel. The anger was clear and voluble, and there is no getting away from the fact that Vincent Kompany's red card left them in a state of disrepair. Yet Kompany, as captain, failed his team the moment he launched himself off the ground with both feet. It does not matter what intent he had, or how much of Nani and the ball he got; the simple fact is that a player raising both feet in a sliding tackle is asking for trouble. Foy made mistakes, inevitably, but the bigger ones took place long after Kompany had left the pitch. Aleksandar Kolarov brought down Antonio Valencia for a clear penalty at 3-1 and City could have taken the game to a replay if Phil Jones's handball had been spotted. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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Today will be the D day. King Henry will be dribbling against Leeds. RvP isn't playing instead the King will play his position. I expect the King to connect well with Theo James and Park. I expect a 3-0 to Arsenal. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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One would be mistaken to believe City that City were leading when Kompany was sent off. Abou Diaby, Torres are all recipients of similar red cards in the past - yet TAZ and crew never gave their expert opinions on the matter. Ama it's coz they weren't playing against United then? A similar tackle, actually softer one from Kevin Davies has kept Cleverly in the treatment room for almost 4 months. Nani was lucky, Tom was not. Hats off Foy! Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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