I am a doctor in this country. The problem with people like @digitek who are the admin people at mafya house and expect excellent service from unpaid , overworked doctors- and give the "its a calling excuse" when they demand to be better remunerated. Our health sector is pathetic. no equipment, no supplies etc- we are left to make "intelligent guesses of our patients' diagnoses. No wonder our life expectancy is 58!

I tried to bring up a point here sometime back. Some careers are professions while others are vocations. Unfortunately, we get into vocations to make money. By any standards, a basic of 56K plus allowances is not bad for a vocation. You will not certainly run a V8 Range Rover,in your first year in service but it will keep your kids and family reasonably well. I say again, How I wish they were raising hell due to lack of equipment, not enough docs, lack of medicine, lack of ambulances and the like. At least I would know that they will work better. Even if they are paid five times what they have now,how can they work better if the facilities remain as they are? This is total selfishness!!

A graduate doctor earns 49k- that's in Nairobi, and about 38k in Moyale (take home-after taxes) works nights, does emergencies etc. Gava pays ati 600/- hardship allowance @bwenyenye- Now who is being selfish.

I think majority of wazuans eg @mcreggae and @bwenyenye go to private hospitals for treatment. Hence their opinions. Wore unto the rest of kenyans! I don't see how you expect doctors to attend to patients while wondering how to take care of themselves. Recently a doctor in Busia died in a public hospital in Nairobi- coz he was waiting for a service he could not afford! Another dentist died of a fire in Garissa coz ati gava could not pay for her treatment at nairobi hosp.Not to mention the attention all the Sinai residents got!

hey guys, i think some of us are missing the picture here...go to school, work for the gava for like 4-5 years with a promise of a fully govt sponsored masters...apply for masters, pass interview and start school only to be told gava spent your money for fees to pay debts???? so u have to work urself to pay up your fee... start ur classes as u work at Kenyatta hospital for FREE.. those guys are not paid to work at KNH but cant be treated there even for a cold for free...Plus their salaries have not been reviewed even by a bob since 1996...
If these guys were not there how many Kenyans would be dead by now..especially those that cannot afford expensive private hospitals???
Seriously the gava needs to style up

True boss. You pay the ambulance driver maybe 18K but the ambulance is out of siren and gas for half the month. So, if I pay him 30K and not fix the van, how have I gained? Let us not forget that we are employers of these people. I would rather the approach where we first give them all the facilities they require. If We equip all hospitals with an ambulance, then we can employ drivers. Instead of having the ambulance do rounds of getting the medicine from the provincial HQ, let another vehicle be availed to that. Now the hospital has two drivers who can interchange shifts. Same to the docs. This way, we stop having docs keep watch over a patient as they await the lab results from nairobi. This means less time per patient and more time in the doc's hands to visit Wazua and trade on the NSE or do lock-arm(sp) or even go to visit his/her farm. You then solve things structurally. The district hospitals actually work and KNH is relieved. We then have a doc with enough free time to make money from other ventures. But telling me that a pay hike will solve this issue is ABK! thinking.

My opinion is that all civil servants deserve a pay rise.

Yes.@ njouze is very right.been a follower of wazua(stockskenya)since 2007 but now i must speak.And the truth is that POSTGRADUATE TRAINEE DOCTORS AT KNH WORK FOR UPTO 5 YRS WITHOUT GETTING A SINGLE CENT FROM KNH

wacheni rongo bana, it aint like only med students made it to study medicine in this our beautiful country, some of us chose not to study, it doesn't we should be paid any lesser!!!...watimo stima omera!!!

mozernat, have you cehcked out the number of unemployed accountants out there???...utalia!!!!

I agree. Competence in their ranks is however not the issue I was alluding to. There is that certain level of communication.

How can I put it?

Picture a doctor, a fatherly man or motherly woman, who obviously has more experience generally in life as you can assume from the age.

Then picture a young man who may or may not have a family of his own, who is still gathering life experiences along the way. One old enough to be your younger brother.

This young man wants you, nay, demands that you treat him as you would that fatherly doctor or motherly doctor.

And to communicate his desire from the word go, he intentionally and deliberately assumes a superior pose when he interacts with you. Arent they taught communication skills like the rest of humanity?

Useless!