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As long as CBR is 16%+, NSE will not see 3,500
cnn
#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:45:05 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Sure wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
On the NSE, you can only invest in firms not the Index so it matters little where the index is at.

Cash-rich firms is the place to be...!

I need to start looking at the Balance Sheets of my investees... Since I have my preferred firms...

Williamson - Negligible debt but lots of cash including 450mn from sale of 50% of Williamson House.


@ VVS...I thought the house was sold at 500 million? When you say sale of 50%, do you mean Williamson will continue owning 50% of the house which they may sell in the future at above 500 million? Come clean on this one cauze I respect your opinions on these threads.

Williamson owned 50% of Williamson House. Since WH was valued/sold at 900mn (according to the Chairman during the AGM) then WTK's stake is 450mn.

*** Let's assume WTK refused to distribute the cash & put it at 20% for 1 year = 90mn just in interest!***

And i do not think they are distributing.
guru267
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:05:37 PM
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That would be way too much cash to hold on their balance sheet...
Either management makes a specified investment or they must give the cash to shareholders..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:40:04 AM
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guru267 wrote:
That would be way too much cash to hold on their balance sheet...
Either management makes a specified investment or they must give the cash to shareholders..

Cash is KING. Nothing like 'too much cash'.
I think WTK should forgo the Special Dividend. Split the shares 10x & deposit the cash into a bank at 25% [banks are desperate!]

Or buy IFB yielding 17% tax free! Yummy!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mkimwa
#14 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:15:47 PM
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Effect of high CBR, lower growth rate for the economy as a whole - from corporates to SMEs, growth is limited. The rationale being that enterprises need credit to expand and grow the business.

Also, many companies dealing in non-essential commodities will be hard hit, as consumers move away from the luxuries and concentrate on the basic needs - from a macro-economic view.

so Q4 2011 for many companies will not be rosy, thereby clouding results for FY 2011. I bet many companies will report Q4 figures less than those of Q3 in 2011 - i will be proven right in early 2012 when results are released.

In other words, fundamentals of many companies will be hit by the unfavourable macro-economic conditions at the moment;

Other factor: People will move capital from the NSE and put it in the T.Bills - therefore some capital flights from the NSE - i expect that prices will fall in the short term, at least by another 10%. compare prices from start of Nov 2011, and end of Dec 2011 - and the index will have fallen. You can be sure of that.
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