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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Sure wrote:Jaina wrote:The dilema with LMO is that he didnt conduct the investigations and he knows he didnt, he relied on some report(s).
He could have had a better chance if he named only 2 kriminals.
1. Emilio Mwai Kibaki
2. Raila Amolo Ondiga
The fact that he acted like a politicial stooge, dragging 3 "suspects" from each side of the political devide then; will be used as evidence aganist him.
Credibility of ICC is at stake. In the end, the judges may not confirm charges due to a large extent failure by LMO to gather conclusive evidence to warrant full trial.
Well spoken, LMO (Sounds Limau) should have nailed the mother devils instead of the six imps. The PEV was fought because of two people, and only two ppl who were starring in the epic movie, Laira Emolo and Omilio Kifaki. Anything else was about supporting casts in the movie. When you guys will realize that Ocambo is only targeting persons who planned and financed the chaos...this will be a better discussion. If he can prove that MK and RA did these things (separate your arguments from having political responsibilities), he would build a case against them too. With every passing day, the theory that the VIOLENCE were planned and could have happened whether elections were there or not seem legit....The elections just presented a good opportunity
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Soy tu Hague Season 2 continues... Yangu ni matho tuu na masikio. "A woman's heart should be so hidden in Christ that a man should have to seek Him first to find her."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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nostoppingthis wrote:[quote=Sure][quote=Jaina]The dilema with LMO is that he didnt conduct the investigations and he knows he didnt, he relied on some report(s).
He could have had a better chance if he named only 2 kriminals.
1. Emilio Mwai Kibaki
2. Raila Amolo Ondiga
The fact that he acted like a politicial stooge, dragging 3 "suspects" from each side of the political devide then; will be used as evidence aganist him.
When you guys will realize that Ocambo is only targeting persons who planned and financed the chaos...this will be a better discussion. If he can prove that MK and RA did these things (separate your arguments from having political responsibilities), he would build a case against them too.
With every passing day, the theory that the VIOLENCE were planned and could have happened whether elections were there or not seem legit....The elections just presented a good opportunity @nostoppingthis ...Tell them, tell them man. It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. During the reign of Moi, he would say something like,"Njoya is not a good man". And in the next few minutes we would see Njoya being clobbered 'moilessly' by a policeman. In law that does not Make Moi guilty or liable. State House is not a personal residence. Top gava officials have access 24 hours and Kibaki does not know everything that goes in there. Since we do not have many academic minds in Wazua politics section, many of those that contribute in this section will always think Raila and Kibaki. I bow out!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Mag, nost....hiyo ndio watu wengi wamesoma lakini hawataki kuelewa, you ask why riots were all over kenya but killing, raping (crimes against humanity) were in specific areas and they can't answer you!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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'user' wrote:I pray that one ,two or all the suspects are nailed.otherwise impunity will finish my beloved motherland.the chest thumping, mtado? attitude will be unbearable
i concur with you on this
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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On a light note I just realized that the defence team is KKK Kehoe, Khan and Kay can't wait for the vociferous three. The more they defend their clients, the more they contradict each other!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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majay wrote:'user' wrote:I pray that one ,two or all the suspects are nailed.otherwise impunity will finish my beloved motherland.the chest thumping, mtado? attitude will be unbearable
i concur with you on this Thirded.....Funga mpaka miguu. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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McReggae wrote:On a light note I just realized that the defence team is KKK Kehoe, Khan and Kay can't wait for the vociferous three. The more they defend their clients, the more they contradict each other!!!
McDobba, Maj Gen is off to a great start, atleast his defense concentrated on exonerating him from planning, financing and being at the policy level of a "network". They argue that whenever he had info about people organizing to commit the violence his reaction is well documented to reveal that his actions were geared towards stopping the violence by any means necessary. He did not have a stake or motive to be party to either side of the divide.
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Rahatupu wrote:McReggae wrote:On a light note I just realized that the defence team is KKK Kehoe, Khan and Kay can't wait for the vociferous three. The more they defend their clients, the more they contradict each other!!!
McDobba, Maj Gen is off to a great start, atleast his defense concentrated on exonerating him from planning, financing and being at the policy level of a "network". They argue that whenever he had info about people organizing to commit the violence his reaction is well documented to reveal that his actions were geared towards stopping the violence by any means necessary. He did not have a stake or motive to be party to either side of the divide. When a ship starts sinking, the rats jump off first... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Njung'e wrote:majay wrote:'user' wrote:I pray that one ,two or all the suspects are nailed.otherwise impunity will finish my beloved motherland.the chest thumping, mtado? attitude will be unbearable
i concur with you on this Thirded.....Funga mpaka miguu. id rather pray that justice is done
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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McReggae wrote:Mag, nost....hiyo ndio watu wengi wamesoma lakini hawataki kuelewa, you ask why riots were all over kenya but killing, raping (crimes against humanity) were in specific areas and they can't answer you!!! Riots were all over Kenya, really? Killing and raping in specific places, really? There were killings of civilians and other human rights abuses in The western part of Kenya by criminal gangs too! No one is on trial for this maybe because no one planned violence in those areas. Maybe its in the nature of youths in those areas act the way they did when annoyed thus needed no financing. MAYBE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Othaura and UK lawyers are concentating much on RAO and videos and forgetting that they need to exonorate their clients from the charges levelled agaist them. Ha! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Play EVD_01_04annex impunity ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Play EVD_01_04annex impunity How now? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Play EVD_01_04annex impunity How now? Watch the proceedings live ujionee ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Play EVD_01_04annex impunity How now? Watch the proceedings live ujionee Hakuna link?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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The prosecution is calling Maina Nejnga 'Maina Diambo'...alisema the youth are ready just waiting for the signal!!!...eti has a long history with mungiks and gave coordinators 3.3M each to finance violence...said their community in RV was being finished....these are the allegations his defence team should be tackling!!!! ..... link: follow capitalfm on twitter!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Gen. Gichangi....you might get fired soon!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:The prosecution is calling Maina Nejnga 'Maina Diambo'...alisema the youth are ready just waiting for the signal!!!...eti has a long history with mungiks and gave coordinators 3.3M each to finance violence...said their community in RV was being finished....these are the allegations his defence team should be tackling!!!!
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link: follow capitalfm on twitter!!! ....Ati Uhuru is a long long time member of Mungiki...NKT!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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1st private session....the most dreaded by suspects!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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