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#21 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:03:27 PM
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Watch Jim Rogers blasting the Fed, Bernanke and Geitner says US headed for Fiscal Armageddon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6PAMcv6xwY...
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:06:13 PM
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While not directly involved with the financial markets, 'Food Inc' is a great documentary. Shows how big Food Corporations in America will do ANYTHING to generate higher profits. They are ruthless in controlling the the entire supply chain.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Drunkard
#23 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:56:58 PM
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.... I could be from mars but I don't get worked up by movies most of which are just movies, I guess if someone use a little insider info or do a little market manipulation don't be mad he/she earned the right to access those info if they abuse too much they'll be got if they're smart they'll get away forever face it. Market was long manipulated the time people moved from fundametal analysis to technical analysis,and now market rely on programmed and supercomputed high order belief.

And if you get out of capital markets to corporate finance management judgment take the center stage just about every company smoothen their earnings, as a matter of facts there is a top side booked (plus or minus) in just about every step of consolidation and guess how many step of consolidation happen in a typical company? not less than 3.
hisah
#24 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:10:30 AM
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@Drunkard doesn't mind broken systems. Interesting... If we could have everyone educated enough on this broken monetary system, that would be fair & fine with me. But as long as numerous wanjikus are kept in the dark & promised heaven from a broken system, that I cannot support.
And by educated I dont mean classroom material, but real life market material, which shows how much a casino it is.
And to start with, lesson 1 for wanjiku should be how HFT (High frequency trading - microsec trading) works. Then how 'quote stuffing' works. That lesson will enable wanjiku to decide if she wants to play with the casino foxes...
Then wanjiku will understand who Mr Market is & why he's always not logical as per the crowd's expectation.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Drunkard
#25 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:52:30 PM
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@hisah,

Wanjiku don't need to know alot because it will hurt his head, beside if Wanjiku try to do it on his/her own chance is that return will be zero. Furthermore, Wanjiku have not earned the right to question Mr Market because when Mr Market was getting up early to crunch numbers and lay down the bricks to be Mr Market Wanjiku was sleeping late and hosting village parties.

Untill all Wanjikus get together and decide to not rely on Mr Market, Mr Market will keep calling the shots.
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#26 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2011 5:34:05 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Also watch The Company Men. Very relevant to what's going on now, AGAIN. Inside Job was awesome too.


Just watched 'The Company Men' Great stuff with one of my favourites Kevin Costner.
selah
#27 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 10:19:45 AM
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The company men,Inside job are just movies and a lil bit fictional...If you watched a CNBC documentary I think it was titled 'The house of cards'....Inside job would be its trailer...The subprime debacle was well laid out with beneficiaries named...unlike Inside job that seemed more of a political movie to say the least.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Sure
#28 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 11:38:41 AM
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selah wrote:
The company men,Inside job are just movies and a lil bit fictional...If you watched a CNBC documentary I think it was titled 'The house of cards'....Inside job would be its trailer...The subprime debacle was well laid out with beneficiaries named...unlike Inside job that seemed more of a political movie to say the least.


The documentary I watched and still have is called "Defaced Inside Job". It presents unparalleled evidence of what secret societies are upto, interviews the specific characters like Paulson etc and at the end, you realize we are being fooled. Someone is attempting to take over the world,an elite group.

Sample this, the Subprime Morgages was a stage mananged phenomena, after foreclosuer, the poor are kicked out into tents, the elite buy the same houses at a fraction of the market price and waits for when the real estate market will boom again.

Down load it here

http://isohunt.com/torre...+Inside+Job?tab=summary

Use Vuze downloader for quick and efficient download.
Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
hisah
#29 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:35:24 AM
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Quite a number of new economical models are being floated of late and most don't involve a monetary system except a few like bitcoins. If I were to choose the system, I'd go for the non monetary solution. This boom-bust-boom-bust monetary system has run its course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7CQUbcn7Bk
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:37:37 AM
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hisah wrote:
Quite a number of new economical models are being floated of late and most don't involve a monetary system except a few like bitcoins. If I were to choose the system, I'd go for the non monetary solution. This boom-bust-boom-bust monetary system has run its course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7CQUbcn7Bk


The Zeitgeist movement / Peter Joseph seems to be proposing socialism (vis-a-vis Oligarchy) with occult overtones. It bears audacious solutions that we as a race are incapable of embracing as history has proven again and again. There is only one solution, rule by the deity of the One that is the way, the truth and the life.
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:22
Drunkard
#31 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:05:44 PM
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Sure wrote:
selah wrote:
The company men,Inside job are just movies and a lil bit fictional...If you watched a CNBC documentary I think it was titled 'The house of cards'....Inside job would be its trailer...The subprime debacle was well laid out with beneficiaries named...unlike Inside job that seemed more of a political movie to say the least.


The documentary I watched and still have is called "Defaced Inside Job". It presents unparalleled evidence of what secret societies are upto, interviews the specific characters like Paulson etc and at the end, you realize we are being fooled. Someone is attempting to take over the world,an elite group.

Sample this, the Subprime Morgages was a stage mananged phenomena, after foreclosuer, the poor are kicked out into tents, the elite buy the same houses at a fraction of the market price and waits for when the real estate market will boom again.



If anyone look closely what actually caused the subprime mortgage crisis, it was the greed on the part of the mainstreet more than even the wallstreet, people signed up for the houses they didn't afford. The underlying principle behind the securitization of the mortgage securities was derived from assumptions modeled from actual statistical data collected for over 50 yrs, from the data came the derivative. The risk that wasn't mitigated was the risk that wasn't known, who would have thought a bunch of idiots will sign up for mortgage they can't afford and cause a messive default? 50yrs data respresented a fair sample of Americans who actually afforded their houses!

And of course the smart one always win, you don't work for the community, you work for yourself and yes when it is time to run, you've got to think of yourself first. Screw everyone, I will take care of me first even if you have to live in tents! It is cold out there you know!
Insurgent
#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:12:55 PM
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Drunkard wrote:
Sure wrote:
selah wrote:
The company men,Inside job are just movies and a lil bit fictional...If you watched a CNBC documentary I think it was titled 'The house of cards'....Inside job would be its trailer...The subprime debacle was well laid out with beneficiaries named...unlike Inside job that seemed more of a political movie to say the least.


The documentary I watched and still have is called "Defaced Inside Job". It presents unparalleled evidence of what secret societies are upto, interviews the specific characters like Paulson etc and at the end, you realize we are being fooled. Someone is attempting to take over the world,an elite group.

Sample this, the Subprime Morgages was a stage mananged phenomena, after foreclosuer, the poor are kicked out into tents, the elite buy the same houses at a fraction of the market price and waits for when the real estate market will boom again.



If anyone look closely what actually caused the subprime mortgage crisis, it was the greed on the part of the mainstreet more than even the wallstreet, people signed up for the houses they didn't afford. The underlying principle behind the securitization of the mortgage securities was derived from assumptions modeled from actual statistical data collected for over 50 yrs, from the data came the derivative. The risk that wasn't mitigated was the risk that wasn't known, who would have thought a bunch of idiots will sign up for mortgage they can't afford and cause a messive default? 50yrs data respresented a fair sample of Americans who actually afforded their houses!

And of course the smart one always win, you don't work for the community, you work for yourself and yes when it is time to run, you've got to think of yourself first. Screw everyone, I will take care of me first even if you have to live in tents! It is cold out there you know!




Don't you remember George Kichaka saying the government will ensure every American gets a loof over his head?

Quote: George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.

http://www.sodahead.com/...ant/blog-386485/?page=3


"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.

Insurgent
#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:16:01 PM
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Drunkard wrote:


If anyone look closely what actually caused the subprime mortgage crisis, it was the greed on the part of the mainstreet more than even the wallstreet, people signed up for the houses they didn't afford. The underlying principle behind the securitization of the mortgage securities was derived from assumptions modeled from actual statistical data collected for over 50 yrs, from the data came the derivative. The risk that wasn't mitigated was the risk that wasn't known, who would have thought a bunch of idiots will sign up for mortgage they can't afford and cause a messive default? 50yrs data respresented a fair sample of Americans who actually afforded their houses!

And of course the smart one always win, you don't work for the community, you work for yourself and yes when it is time to run, you've got to think of yourself first. Screw everyone, I will take care of me first even if you have to live in tents! It is cold out there you know!


Don't make assumptions, go back into history for facts.

President George W. Bush addresses the White House Conference on Increasing Minority Homeownership at The George Washington University Tuesday, Oct. 15, 2002

THE PRESIDENT: …. I appreciate your attendance to this very important conference. You see, we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want. This is -- an ownership society is a compassionate society.

More and more people own their homes in America today. Two-thirds of all Americans own their homes, yet we have a problem here in America because few than half of the Hispanics and half the African Americans own the home. That's a homeownership gap. It's a -- it's a gap that we've got to work together to close for the good of our country, for the sake of a more hopeful future.

We've got to work to knock down the barriers that have created a homeownership gap.

I set an ambitious goal. It's one that I believe we can achieve. It's a clear goal, that by the end of this decade we'll increase the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million families. (Applause.) … And it's going to require a strong commitment from those of you involved in the housing industry. …

I appreciate so very much the home owners who are with us today, the Arias family, newly arrived from Peru. They live in Baltimore. Thanks to the Association of Real Estate Brokers, the help of some good folks in Baltimore, they figured out how to purchase their own home. Imagine to be coming to our country without a home, with a simple dream. And now they're on stage here at this conference being one of the new home owners in the greatest land on the face of the Earth. I appreciate the Arias family coming. (Applause.)

We've got the Horton family from Little Rock, Arkansas, here today. … They were helped by HUD, they were helped by Freddie Mac. …

Finally, Kim Berry from New York is here. She's a single mom. You're not going to believe this, but her son is 18 years old. (Laughter.) She barely looked like she was 18 to me. And being a single mom is the hardest job in America. And the idea of this fine American working hard to provide for her child, at the same time working hard to realize her dream, which is owning a home on Long Island, is really a special tribute to the character of this particular person and to the character of a lot of Americans. So we're honored to have you here, Kim, and thanks for being such a good mom and a fine American. (Applause.)

I told Mel Martinez I was serious about this initiative… And the good news is, Mel Martinez believes it and means it, as well. He's doing a fine job of running HUD, and I'm glad he has joined my Cabinet. (Applause.)

And I picked a pretty spunky deputy, as well, Alphonso Jackson -- my fellow Texan. (Applause.) I call him A.J. …

I see Rosario Marin, who's the Treasurer of the United States. Rosario used to be a mayor. Thank you for coming, Madam Mayor. (Applause.) She understands how important housing is. …

All of us here in America should believe, and I think we do, that we should be, as I mentioned, a nation of owners. Owning something is freedom, as far as I'm concerned. It's part of a free society. And ownership of a home helps bring stability to neighborhoods. You own your home in a neighborhood, you have more interest in how your neighborhood feels, looks, whether it's safe or not. It brings pride to people, it's a part of an asset-based to society. It helps people build up their own individual portfolio, provides an opportunity, if need be, for a mom or a dad to leave something to their child. It's a part of -- it's of being a -- it's a part of -- an important part of America.

Homeownership is also an important part of our economic vitality. If -- when we meet this project, this goal, according to our Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, we will have added an additional $256 billion to the economy by encouraging 5.5 million new home owners in America; …

Low interest rates, low inflation are very important foundations for economic growth. The idea of encouraging new homeownership and the money that will be circulated as a result of people purchasing homes will mean people are more likely to find a job in America. This project not only is good for the soul of the country, it's good for the pocketbook of the country, as well.

To open up the doors of homeownership there are some barriers, and I want to talk about four that need to be overcome. First, down payments. A lot of folks can't make a down payment. They may be qualified. They may desire to buy a home, but they don't have the money to make a down payment. I think if you were to talk to a lot of families that are desirous to have a home, they would tell you that the down payment is the hurdle that they can't cross. And one way to address that is to have the federal government participate.

And so we've called upon Congress to set up what's called the American Dream Down Payment Fund, which will provide financial grants to local governments to help first-time home buyers who qualify to make the down payment on their home. If a down payment is a problem, there's a way we can address that. And when Congress funds the program, this should help 200,000 new families over the next five years become first-time home buyers.

Secondly, affordable housing is a problem in many neighborhoods, particularly inner-city neighborhoods. … I'm doing is proposing a single-family affordable housing credit to encourage the construction of single-family homes in neighborhoods where affordable housing is scarce. (Applause.)

Over the next five years the initiative will provide home builders and therefore home buyers with -- home builders with $2 billion in tax credits to bring affordable homes and therefore provide an additional supply for home buyers. …

And we've got to set priorities. And one of the key priorities is going to be inner-city America. …

Another obstacle to minority homeownership is the lack of information. You know, getting into your own home can be complicated. It can be a difficult process. I had that very same problem. (Laughter and applause.)

Every home buyer has responsibilities and rights that need to be understood clearly. And yet, when you look at some of the contracts, there's a lot of small print. And you can imagine somebody newly arrived from Peru looking at all that print, and saying, I'm not sure I can possibly understand that. Why do I want to buy a home? There's an educational process that needs to go on, not only to explain the contract, explain obligation, but also to explain financing options, to help people understand the complexities of a homeownership market, and also at the same time to protect people from unscrupulous lenders, people who would take advantage of a good-hearted soul who is trying to realize their dream.

Homeownership education is critical. And so today, I'm pleased to announce that through Mel's office, we're going to distribute $35 million in 2003 to more than 100 national, state and local organizations that promote homeownership through buyer education. (Applause.)

And, of course, one of the larger obstacles to minority homeownership is financing, is the ability to have their dream financed. Right now, we have a program that all of you are familiar with, maybe our fellow Americans are, and that's what they call a Section 8 housing program, that provides billions of dollars in vouchers to help low-income Americans with their rent. It encourages leasing. We think it's important that we use those vouchers, that federal money to help low-income Americans go from being somebody who leases to somebody who owns; that we use the Section 8 program to not only help with down payment, but to help with continuing monthly mortgage payments after they're into their new home. It is a -- it is a way to help us meet this dream of 5.5 million additional families owning their home.

I'm also going to encourage the lending industry to develop a mortgage market so that this script, these vouchers, can regularly be used as a source of payment to provide more capital to lenders, who can then help more families move from rental housing into houses of their own. …

Last June, I issued a challenge to everyone involved in the housing industry to help increase the number of minority families to be home owners. And what I'm talking about, I'm talking about your bankers and your brokers and developers, as well as members of faith-based community and community programs. And the response to the home owners challenge has been very strong and very gratifying. Twenty-two public and private partners have signed up to help meet our national goal. Partners in the mortgage finance industry are encouraging homeownership by purchasing more loans made by banks to African Americans, Hispanics and other minorities.

Representatives of the real estate and homebuilding industries, through their nationwide networks or affiliates, are committed to broadening homeownership. They made the commitment to help meet the national goal we set.

Freddie Mae -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- I see the heads who are here; I want to thank you all for coming -- (laughter) -- have committed to provide more money for lenders. They've committed to help meet the shortage of capital available for minority home buyers.

Fannie Mae recently announced a $50 million program to develop 600 homes for the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma. Franklin [Raines], I appreciate that commitment. They also announced $12.7 million investment in a condominium project in Harlem. It's the beginnings of a series of initiatives to help meet the goal of 5.5 million families. Franklin told me at the meeting where we kicked this office, he said, I promise you we will help, and he has, like many others in this room have done.

Freddie Mac recently began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers and create greater opportunities for homeownership. One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans. …

There's all kinds of ways that we can work together to meet the goal. Corporate America has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place. Corporate America has responded. As an example -- only one of many examples -- the good folks at Sears and Roebuck have responded by making a five-year, $100 million commitment to making homeownership and home maintenance possible for millions of Americans. …

The non-profit groups are bringing homeownership to some of our most troubled communities. …

The other thing Kirbyjon told me, which I really appreciate, is you don't have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else. And I know Kirbyjon. He is what I call a social entrepreneur who is using his platform as a Methodist preacher to improve the neighborhood and the community in which he lives.

And so is Luis Cortes, who represents Nueva Esperanza in Philadelphia. I went to see Luis in the inner-city Philadelphia. … But he also understood that a homeownership program is incredibly important to revitalize this neighborhood that a lot of folks had already quit on. …

Again, I want to tell you, this is an initiative -- as Mel will tell you, it's an initiative that we take very seriously. … Thank you for coming. May God bless your vision. May God bless America. (Applause.)


"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.

Drunkard
#34 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:24:35 PM
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.... it didn't say buy a home if you can't afford, did it? People did crazy things to own a home, including signing other people to convience the banks that they have enough income, you could call you cuzos and ask them to lie that you are going to be living together that way you can qualify by using their income, what people were betting for is price appreciation, they thought they were going to buy a house and before they make three payments the price would have double and they'd sell it, unfortunately they enter the market when the prices had already peaked!
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#35 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 10:58:16 PM
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Just finished watching 'Million Dollar Traders'. Novices trading during the 2008 crisis. Plenty of emotions...
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#36 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:32:14 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Just finished watching 'Million Dollar Traders'. Novices trading during the 2008 crisis. Plenty of emotions...


Thats nothing . you better watch Billion Dollar Day .. damn . and know currency trading is no joke !!!!! ( part a - e)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9brMMxI1RY


Or watch Paul tudor Jones documentary ( very rare to find documentary )

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/XH5W4vffBbY/
QW25081985
#37 Posted : Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:01:43 AM
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all the investing and trading documentaries you can watch

http://www.financedocume.../all-documentaries.html


enjoy !
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#38 Posted : Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:52:09 AM
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QW25081985 wrote:
all the investing and trading documentaries you can watch

http://www.financedocume.../all-documentaries.html


enjoy !

Thanks
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