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Gordon Gekko
#11 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 10:42:46 AM
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Lets be positive about this. The Tanzanians are funding Kenyan businesses, and not their own. That way we can channel OUR capital elsewhere in OUR economy.
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Genghis Khan
#12 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 11:02:43 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Tanzanians+get+priority+in+sale+of++brewer+shares/-/539552/1198062/-/qxhg56z/-/index.html

BDAFRICA wrote:

The report said the shares would be sold at a premium of between 10 and 15 per cent above the Sh102 per share closing price on July 1, suggesting a top value of Sh6.9 billion.


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VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 11:21:42 AM
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Kenya needs to concentrate on East Africa excluding tanzania. There is South Sudan & Ethiopia to consider BUT the useless folks in GoK are messing up. Look at KPA & KPC which forced KK to lease a facility in Tanzania to cover Rwanda & Burundi.

If KPC did its job then KK could have used the Mombasa-Kampala-Kigali-Bujumbura route!
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Sober
#14 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 11:28:24 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
Further more they are only offloading 59M shares so we should not even bother about it as it is likely going to be hugely oversubscribed.


they say that we will be considered when they remain. i pray that they buy only 30% and we Kenyans in fact oversubscribe the remaining 70% and we see who will be left laughing.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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FUNKY
#15 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 11:32:07 AM
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@ Sober - i wish that happens...but most likely the Tanzanians will swallow the full 59M.
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gathinga
#16 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42:10 AM
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Sober wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Further more they are only offloading 59M shares so we should not even bother about it as it is likely going to be hugely oversubscribed.


they say that we will be considered when they remain. i pray that they buy only 30% and we Kenyans in fact oversubscribe the remaining 70% and we see who will be left laughing.


if it went that way, they would find a reason to cancel the IPO kama ile ya @carygoh
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Sober
#17 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 12:31:32 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
@ Sober - i wish that happens...but most likely the Tanzanians will swallow the full 59M.


i doubt if that will happen. have you checked the volumes traded at their bourse? they dont even match a single counter of ours like HFCK.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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young
#18 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 12:38:45 PM
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IPO is a differnt ball game, I believe Tanzanians will take the greatest chunk.
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the deal
#19 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 1:19:49 PM
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Cant Tanzanians do what they have to do...LOL..KK new base TZ...showing Ke is losing its grip on EA...
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mukiha
#20 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 3:25:44 PM
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Sober wrote:
How can they lock out Kenyans citing that is after the tanzanians are allocated what they applied for is when we will be considered.


For a long time, foreigners had [very] restricted access to Kenyan IPOs. But Kenyans could buy shares in London or New York or any other developed market.... as long as they had the forex - which was hard to come by!

It is just an indicator of how underdeveloped the market in Tz is. We have several IPOs lined up right here in Nairobi, buy those ones and wait till the day Tz realises it has open up... at least to fellow East Africans.

By the way do recall that the government of Tz doesn't allow it's citizens to participate in regional IPOs - citing some archaic forex control rules. Given them time, they will come around.
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