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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Very nice post! The minute you let someone else dictate, not advise, dictate for you what is morally right or wrong, you have already lost that battle coz they would never tolerate you telling them how to live their lives. I never knew the true meaning of backstabbing until I dealt with people from the western hemisphere. I think part of the reason they think Africans can reason at a 5 year olds level is because they cannot understand how Africans are so gullible and dont see the backstabbing, while they on the other hand are normally on their toes ready for it. What they miss is that for the most part, Africans are straight forward and wear their emotions on their sleeves, they on the other hand believe in concealing the cards that you hold. So im sure there's some NGO heads somewhere laughing about how it took Africans over 10 years to unveil this NGO scam.Its pretty inhumane to benefit off the poverty and misery of other people, how do you sleep at night knowing 80% of the NGO money goes to benefit your exorbitant lifestlye? If they were truly out to save the world, why cant they live like Mother Teresa? Why do they travel half way around the world when there are just as many poor, homeless and starving people in their home countries?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Nabwire wrote:Very nice post! The minute you let someone else dictate, not advise, dictate for you what is morally right or wrong, you have already lost that battle coz they would never tolerate you telling them how to live their lives. I never knew the true meaning of backstabbing until I dealt with people from the western hemisphere. I think part of the reason they think Africans can reason at a 5 year olds level is because they cannot understand how Africans are so gullible and dont see the backstabbing, while they on the other hand are normally on their toes ready for it. What they miss is that for the most part, Africans are straight forward and wear their emotions on their sleeves, they on the other hand believe in concealing the cards that you hold. So im sure there's some NGO heads somewhere laughing about how it took Africans over 10 years to unveil this NGO scam.Its pretty inhumane to benefit off the poverty and misery of other people, how do you sleep at night knowing 80% of the NGO money goes to benefit your exorbitant lifestlye? If they were truly out to save the world, why cant they live like Mother Teresa? Why do they travel half way around the world when there are just as many poor, homeless and starving people in their home countries? . @Nabwire, you are spot on kabisa.@.. aligator, also read "How Europe underdeveloped Africa" by Walter Rodney, "The Wretched of the Earth" by Frantz Fanon and "Lords of Poverty" by Graham Hancock and you will surely get the bigger picture of the modern day Political Economy of Africa vis a vis imperialism and how the same is propagated by collaboration as well as sheer blackmail and ignorance of our leaders. Add to this the picture of the killing of all anti imperialism agents from Lumumba to Gadaffi. Now fast forward to NGO business and our sheer greed is all open for us to see... a good example is the anti jigger campaign, I often laugh at how it is expected that washing the poor peoples' feet will eradicate their poverty and save them from jiggers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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I don't buy into this "dog ate my homework" excuses to try and explain our misery. Bottom line is the mzungu has as much right to be selfish as we africans, they also have a right to act in their self interest including hoodwinking us to believe that they are trying to help us. It is our responsibility as africans to act in our interests and do whatever it takes to succeed, if we can't then too bad. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:I don't buy into this "dog ate my homework" excuses to try and explain our misery. Bottom line is the mzungu has as much right to be selfish as we africans, they also have a right to act in their self interest including hoodwinking us to believe that they are trying to help us.
It is our responsibility as africans to act in our interests and do whatever it takes to succeed, if we can't then too bad. Actually this kind of attitude is what facilitates Africa's rape! You should see the 'save the poor, starving and dying children' ads, its pathetic! I remember some show did a satire on the ads coz the " Ambassadors" for the poor children are always well fed and clothed. Africans need to realize that perception matters alot, the more we allow Africa to be portrayed as a basket case, the more we will stagnate. Ever wondered why those save the children "Ambassadors" never save American children? Believe me there are alot of needy American children too! Coz the US government would never allow their own citizens to be exploited, if 80% of your funding goes towards Administrative purposes, that NGO is there to help its staff not the starving people! If the mzungu has every right to hoodwink us, then how come we dont have a right to hoodwink them? If I took a shot of all the homeless and dying people on Skidrow, and sent out an SOS for them, how far do you think I would go? And what if, for every donation, I kept 80% of it, how soon before I am shut down?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Nabwire wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:I don't buy into this "dog ate my homework" excuses to try and explain our misery. Bottom line is the mzungu has as much right to be selfish as we africans, they also have a right to act in their self interest including hoodwinking us to believe that they are trying to help us.
It is our responsibility as africans to act in our interests and do whatever it takes to succeed, if we can't then too bad. Actually this kind of attitude is what facilitates Africa's rape! You should see the 'save the poor, starving and dying children' ads, its pathetic! I remember some show did a satire on the ads coz the " Ambassadors" for the poor children are always well fed and clothed. Africans need to realize that perception matters alot, the more we allow Africa to be portrayed as a basket case, the more we will stagnate. Ever wondered why those save the children "Ambassadors" never save American children? Believe me there are alot of needy American children too! Coz the US government would never allow their own citizens to be exploited, if 80% of your funding goes towards Administrative purposes, that NGO is there to help its staff not the starving people! If the mzungu has every right to hoodwink us, then how come we dont have a right to hoodwink them? If I took a shot of all the homeless and dying people on Skidrow, and sent out an SOS for them, how far do you think I would go? And what if, for every donation, I kept 80% of it, how soon before I am shut down? Let me be more clearer for you. The Mzungu takes his own dollar, spends 0.8 and gives the african 0.2, why would you complain about that. Do you the beggar want to insist on getting the whole dollar! "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Nabwire wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:I don't buy into this "dog ate my homework" excuses to try and explain our misery. Bottom line is the mzungu has as much right to be selfish as we africans, they also have a right to act in their self interest including hoodwinking us to believe that they are trying to help us.
It is our responsibility as africans to act in our interests and do whatever it takes to succeed, if we can't then too bad. Actually this kind of attitude is what facilitates Africa's rape! You should see the 'save the poor, starving and dying children' ads, its pathetic! I remember some show did a satire on the ads coz the " Ambassadors" for the poor children are always well fed and clothed. Africans need to realize that perception matters alot, the more we allow Africa to be portrayed as a basket case, the more we will stagnate. Ever wondered why those save the children "Ambassadors" never save American children? Believe me there are alot of needy American children too! Coz the US government would never allow their own citizens to be exploited, if 80% of your funding goes towards Administrative purposes, that NGO is there to help its staff not the starving people! If the mzungu has every right to hoodwink us, then how come we dont have a right to hoodwink them? If I took a shot of all the homeless and dying people on Skidrow, and sent out an SOS for them, how far do you think I would go? And what if, for every donation, I kept 80% of it, how soon before I am shut down? @Obi, bravo. To @Nabwire and the ilk, i think yours as much as it is true,you miss the point,the solution. And that is what @ Obi is trying to explain. In short we should all be selfish. The mzungu and the African. But what does the African do, he gets lazy and greedy. He wants to invest 1$ and reap 100$. How is that possible? The mzungu is "smart" and selfish,the African is "lazy" and greedy. The solution is therefore not to hate the mzungu and his ways,but to be smart and selfish. A good example is USAid and the malaria program it was running. Where did the money go? The Africans working there [i personally know several], got "lazy" and greedy. Colluded with some wazungus and they "ate" the funds. How then do you blame the mzungu? "Wajinga ndio waliuwawa". Its our stupidity killing us, not the mzungus wits. There is an election coming here,have you been following the debates? How many are using their minds in their choice of the next leader? How can you use emotion where a functioning brain is needed and expect to come out better? Tuache ujinga na tutatoboa. Otherwise the mzungu has just an easy target,why blame him? Why do you think the mzungu doesn't pull the same on most of the Asian countries? It's because they are smart and selfish.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 319
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@mkeiyd - you are slowly replacing @guka as my hero on this site. I like your deliberations.
Sisi especially Wakenya we are such escapists! The problems are there, solutions come in (some with NGO's), but we each take our share and then leave the mzungu with the rest. And with this kind of selfishness we expect to deliver some sort of social justice? equality? reprieve? NONSENSE!!! Recall the AIDS body - a Kenya Govt. body that was spending only 3% or so on actual AIDS related stuff? Was it full of mzungu? was it headed by a mzungu?
Let's think!! the fault is with this escapism and self-preservation tactics at the expense of national momentum which has become norm in our country. The same fuels corruption levels that are possibly highest in the world at the moment. I agree that corruption networks are topped by some westerners - but they are originated and facilitated by our own pple - politicians and corporate types alike!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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You know what I give up!! Honestly the next time a mzungu calls you ignorant or inferior to him, please bow down and accept, coz thats essentially what you are doing here. No one has answered my question of why isnt the African allowed to set up NGOs and keep 80% of the proceeds? One thing I will admire about Westerners is they dont have this defeatist mentality that most of you have, they will never say since X is exploiting us, why not let Y exploit us too? They will fight to the death to keep their dignity. Do you not see anything wrong with using images of starving children to collect money and build yourself a mansion? Sigiriri define Escapism, coz what you are advocating is actually escapist. They are taking 80%, lets bury our heads in the sand and just accept the 20%. At this rate and with this kind of thinking, Africa will be recolonized again, oh wait, it already is, grow a spine!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=Nabwire][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]
Let me be more clearer for you.
The Mzungu takes his own dollar, spends 0.8 and gives the african 0.2, why would you complain about that. Do you the beggar want to insist on getting the whole dollar! First of all its not his own dollar, without the image of the dying, starving child he would not have gotten those donations. And the people donating are thinking that their donations are going to the starving child, not towards "Administrative costs". And next time you are required to pay exorbitant fees so you can beg for a visa to go to Western countries, or when Africa is called a backward/dark/basket continent, please dont complain or when you are always short changed in the business world coz your image is lacking. Its not as simplistic as you are looking at it, and its amazing that you call yourself(Africa) a beggar and inadvertently raise the mzungu to a superior status. Sometimes you cant be mad at the mzungu for thinking of himself as superior, how much easier can you make it for him to eff you up over and over?
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