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the sage
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:08:16 AM
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grolut wrote:
So:

"Article 17 of the Rome Statute says:

Having regard to paragraph 10 of the Preamble and article 1, the Court shall determine that a case is inadmissible where:

(a) The case is being investigated or prosecuted by a State which has jurisdiction over it, unless the State is unwilling or unable genuinely to carry out the investigation or prosecution;

(b) The case has been investigated by a State which has jurisdiction over it and the State has decided not to prosecute the person concerned, unless the decision resulted from the unwillingness or inability of the State genuinely to prosecute;

(c) The person concerned has already been tried for conduct which is the subject of the complaint, and a trial by the Court is not permitted under article 20, paragraph 3;

(d) The case is not of sufficient gravity to justify further action by the Court."

So does anyone know on what grounds they will challenge the admissibility?



(a) The case is being investigated or prosecuted by a State which has jurisdiction over it, unless the State is unwilling or unable genuinely to carry out the investigation or prosecution;

3 years later NO ONE has been found guilty an only one police officer was prosecuted and acquitted.
Mr Ocampo twende Kazi. And let them not say "Kenya" will fight the ICC but rather, a cabal in the government will fight the ICC.
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Ray
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:23:58 AM
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[color=red]Kalonzo has failed to woo the US to support deferral.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/110nwjxz/-/index.html[color=red][/color][/color]
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Wendz
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:41:15 PM
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Kenya? Who are they representing? did they ask for our opinion?.... Well, i bet they wouldnt.....

May be it is just a few of us here who are for hague for these guys.... wazua should come up with that voting thing we had again we see if things have changed.....
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Ngalaka
#14 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:06:32 PM
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Methinks Ocampo's in trouble!!

Its him against the Govt of Kenya before the Judges!!!!

Kenya is a Member nation of the ICC charter.

How will the Judges handle this!!
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Burning Spear
#15 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:14:27 PM
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where are the wazua lawyers.

Can they shed some light on this
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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McReggae
#16 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:23:33 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:

Methinks Ocampo's in trouble!!

Its him against the Govt of Kenya before the Judges!!!!

Kenya is a Member nation of the ICC charter.

How will the Judges handle this!!


Which govt of Kenya are we talking about here???.....the whole world know that Kenya has a coalition govt which is not speaking with one voice regarding the ICC,

....this notion that Ocampo is in trouble I really don't, he has nothing to lose really, after all his term is coming to an end and won't be renewed. Those two judges who support his application have their minds made, they will keep ruling against the Ocampo 6 until the real trial begins,0c 6 should be very scared!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Ngalaka
#17 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2011 11:21:43 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

Methinks Ocampo's in trouble!!

Its him against the Govt of Kenya before the Judges!!!!

Kenya is a Member nation of the ICC charter.

How will the Judges handle this!!


Which govt of Kenya are we talking about here???.....the whole world know that Kenya has a coalition govt which is not speaking with one voice regarding the ICC,

....this notion that Ocampo is in trouble I really don't, he has nothing to lose really, after all his term is coming to an end and won't be renewed. Those two judges who support his application have their minds made, they will keep ruling against the Ocampo 6 until the real trial begins,0c 6 should be very scared!!!!




WHO IS GOVT!

http://www.wazua.com/for...s&t=11429#post155844
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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B.Timer
#18 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:18:47 PM
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simonkabz
#19 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:21:20 PM
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Bet the bearded screwhead has never faced so much resistance. The heat generated by the ocampo drama is enuff to upset the trials. Down with this western court that has devided my motherland. The kenyan middle class so so ignorant of the machinani majority!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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kyt
#20 Posted : Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:47:15 PM
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@ simon, care to explain how the middle class are ignorant and how it correlates with the hague process?
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