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McReggae
#181 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:01:38 AM
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limanika wrote:
McReggae wrote:
With 5M signatures somebody still thinks that 4M people will complain to stop the match.....prepare for the referendum dude/lady!!!!

Dude / lady, no one fears this referendum, what you can take to bank though is that this is the ultimate blunder in Tinga's political career, n 4 that we welcome this selfcanibalism with both hands!! At least 4 the first time in 30yrs we will start to concentrate on development when we are done!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I'm a dude for starters, you can say that again, how many posts do you have on the same in wazua!!!!...you are running shitless my friend!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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McReggae
#182 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:08:57 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
With 5M signatures somebody still thinks that 4M people will complain to stop the match.....prepare for the referendum dude/lady!!!!

Yesterday in my local a guy (from the mountain) was swearing that this referendum is God send as it is golden chance to make money. He has already placed orders for campaign merchandise from China and disagreed with anyone who tried to say there will be no referendum. Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall


Applause Applause Applause Applause Now that is a forward thinking Pokomo, referendum inasija!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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limanika
#183 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:10:56 AM
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McReggae wrote:
30% positions for the minorities, check the list!!!!

Laughing out loudly minority by blood % or by name?? And 30% 4 minority amongst college graduates?? Why can't we think of creating employment in private rather than consumption mentality. How does my minority group benefit if I get a job? Coz I will give them a tender??
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McReggae
#184 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:14:55 AM
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limanika wrote:
McReggae wrote:
30% positions for the minorities, check the list!!!!

Laughing out loudly minority by blood % or by name?? And 30% 4 minority amongst college graduates?? Why can't we think of creating employment in private rather than consumption mentality. How does my minority group benefit if I get a job? Coz I will give them a tender??


Why should those who believe they are the so called wealth creators also be the ones consuming everything, why do you love all the positions if indeed you are the enterprise, check the list of the minorities again, we all PAY taxes, pesa mashinani, hata kama ni kudevolve corruption so be it!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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ZZE123
#185 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:15:51 AM
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McReggae wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
With 5M signatures somebody still thinks that 4M people will complain to stop the match.....prepare for the referendum dude/lady!!!!

Yesterday in my local a guy (from the mountain) was swearing that this referendum is God send as it is golden chance to make money. He has already placed orders for campaign merchandise from China and disagreed with anyone who tried to say there will be no referendum. Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall


Applause Applause Applause Applause Now that is a forward thinking Pokomo, referendum inasija!!!!

smile
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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McReggae
#186 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:16:31 AM
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#osemokeoliel!!!.....don't seek to advise us coz we don't need it, if we are messing up the whole thing then wait and beat us!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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mkenyan
#187 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:17:37 AM
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limanika wrote:
Cord's decision to collect signatures without formulating a bill or giving specific proposals will haunt them big. Courts need to interprete what is meant by 'general suggestion'. If I append my signature, and my preference in my mind is that County funds allocation should be increased to 20%, how do I retract my signature if cord finally release a bill proposing county funds should be 90%?? So cord can use my signature to formulate proposals that were not in my mind??

maybe there is a written explanation on what the referendum is all about that those who sign are first asked to read and agree with. maybe those who have signed like mcreggae can tell us.
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McReggae
#188 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:20:11 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
limanika wrote:
Cord's decision to collect signatures without formulating a bill or giving specific proposals will haunt them big. Courts need to interprete what is meant by 'general suggestion'. If I append my signature, and my preference in my mind is that County funds allocation should be increased to 20%, how do I retract my signature if cord finally release a bill proposing county funds should be 90%?? So cord can use my signature to formulate proposals that were not in my mind??

maybe there is a written explanation on what the referendum is all about that those who sign are first asked to read and agree with. maybe those who have signed like mcreggae can tell us.


The signature is not the vote, how is it so difficult to understand this???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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McReggae
#189 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:22:33 AM
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CHAPTER SIXTEEN––AMENDMENT OF THIS
CONSTITUTION
255. (1) A proposed amendment to this Constitution shall be
enacted in accordance with Article 256 or 257, and approved in
accordance with clause (2) by a referendum, if the amendment relates
to any of the following matters—
(a) the supremacy of this Constitution;
(b) the territory of Kenya;
(c) the sovereignty of the people;
Incorporation of commissions and independent offices. Reporting by commissions and independent offices.

(d) the national values and principles of governance mentioned
in Article 10 (2) (a) to (d);
(e) the Bill of Rights;
(f) the term of office of the President;
(g) the independence of the Judiciary and the commissions and
independent offices to which Chapter Fifteen applies;
(h) the functions of Parliament;
(i) the objects, principles and structure of devolved government;
or
(j) the provisions of this Chapter.
(2) A proposed amendment shall be approved by a referendum
under clause (1) if—
(a) at least twenty per cent of the registered voters in each of at
least half of the counties vote in the referendum; and
(b) the amendment is supported by a simple majority of the
citizens voting in the referendum.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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ZZE123
#190 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:37:04 AM
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What I know is that the referendum will happen, what I don’t know is the outcome though anything is possible!
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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