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Law Capping interest rates
obiero
#1841 Posted : Friday, February 03, 2017 7:50:36 PM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=maka]Look at this;

This month the Central Bank of Kenya offered a 10 year Treasury Bond for a total amount of up to Kshs 25 Billion. The total number of bids received was 795 amounting to Kshs 26.31 Billion. The Weighted average rate for successful bids was 15.039%

Coupon 15.039% crazy...even after WHT its good cash

I spoke to the president and his take was that the government shall pull down borrowing rates for itself, which is a good thing.. Expect government to obtain cheap credit. Watch the tbill rate slide down in coming months. We live in good times

Congrats for speaking with @citizen001 but you should have asked him how the "government shall pull down borrowing rates for itself" when in fact we know the rates are market driven (through auctions)

Beg to differ. The auctions are driven mainly by banks.. Now that banks are pushed to the wall on consumer lending, expect government to show a stiff hand


Rates at the auction won't come down anytime soon....that 10 year was just a start.

91, 182, 364 day bills all down.. Expect the shorter tenor to hit 6.5% by December.. As per Graham's law, the bulls at the NSE must show up shortly.. http://www.businessdaily...4800-b0eb44z/index.html[/quote]


Government stiff hand now visible with the last few failed auctions.. The NSE rally is nigh http://www.businessdaily...798768-c6waci/index.html

MadDoc
#1842 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 12:56:37 AM
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http://www.businessdaily...0696-h1purwz/index.html

Banking stocks can't catch a break
Ebenyo
#1843 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:02:31 PM
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Posts: 2,018
Location: Kitale
[quote=Last year dps for these three banks was as follows:
1.Equity-2.00
2.Coop-0.80
3.Kcb-2.00
But due to the interest cap,im not sure if the dps will
be the same.
Can someone plis give a projection of
the likely scenerio.Will dps be the same,decreased,increased
or none?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
ombaalbt
#1844 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:25:29 PM
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Joined: 5/19/2014
Posts: 68
Location: Migori
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=Last year dps for these three banks was as follows:
1.Equity-2.00
2.Coop-0.80
3.Kcb-2.00
But due to the interest cap,im not sure if the dps will
be the same.
Can someone plis give a projection of
the likely scenerio.Will dps be the same,decreased,increased
or none?


The rate caps largely affected third quarter results. My prediction would be the DPS will remain the same. The real test will be 2017 results whose dividends will be paid in 2018.
Learning to sit on my hands
obiero
#1845 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:26:46 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,249
Location: nairobi
ombaalbt wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=Last year dps for these three banks was as follows:
1.Equity-2.00
2.Coop-0.80
3.Kcb-2.00
But due to the interest cap,im not sure if the dps will
be the same.
Can someone plis give a projection of
the likely scenerio.Will dps be the same,decreased,increased
or none?


The rate caps largely affected third quarter results. My prediction would be the DPS will remain the same. The real test will be 2017 results whose dividends will be paid in 2018.

DPS must be held constant

muandiwambeu
#1846 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:05:19 AM
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Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
obiero wrote:
ombaalbt wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=Last year dps for these three banks was as follows:
1.Equity-2.00
2.Coop-0.80
3.Kcb-2.00
But due to the interest cap,im not sure if the dps will
be the same.
Can someone plis give a projection of
the likely scenerio.Will dps be the same,decreased,increased
or none?


The rate caps largely affected third quarter results. My prediction would be the DPS will remain the same. The real test will be 2017 results whose dividends will be paid in 2018.

DPS must be held constant

Dividends were hiked with increasing revenues/ profitability(constant dividend payout ratio). The vice versa is also true. Realisticwise, 50% down.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Ebenyo
#1847 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:43:37 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,018
Location: Kitale
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
ombaalbt wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=Last year dps for these three banks was as follows:
1.Equity-2.00
2.Coop-0.80
3.Kcb-2.00
But due to the interest cap,im not sure if the dps will
be the same.
Can someone plis give a projection of
the likely scenerio.Will dps be the same,decreased,increased
or none?


The rate caps largely affected third quarter results. My prediction would be the DPS will remain the same. The real test will be 2017 results whose dividends will be paid in 2018.

DPS must be held constant

Dividends were hiked with increasing revenues/ profitability(constant dividend payout ratio). The vice versa is also true. Realisticwise, 50% down.


thanks guys for your input.lets hope for the
dps to remain the same alafu maybe next year
a slight drop.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
mlennyma
#1848 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2017 9:11:37 AM
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Posts: 6,194
Location: nairobi
This law is on it's death bed,buy bank stocks,insiders know that and I think that's why the volumes have been swelling
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#1849 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2017 10:46:18 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,249
Location: nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
ombaalbt wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=Last year dps for these three banks was as follows:
1.Equity-2.00
2.Coop-0.80
3.Kcb-2.00
But due to the interest cap,im not sure if the dps will
be the same.
Can someone plis give a projection of
the likely scenerio.Will dps be the same,decreased,increased
or none?


The rate caps largely affected third quarter results. My prediction would be the DPS will remain the same. The real test will be 2017 results whose dividends will be paid in 2018.

DPS must be held constant

Dividends were hiked with increasing revenues/ profitability(constant dividend payout ratio). The vice versa is also true. Realisticwise, 50% down.

Have the profits gone down 50% in 2016??

HaMaina
#1850 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2017 11:42:19 AM
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Joined: 4/23/2014
Posts: 931
mlennyma wrote:
This law is on it's death bed,buy bank stocks,insiders know that and I think that's why the volumes have been swelling


For the law makers to even consider changing it, they must first be debt free and with little use for any future debts, and this I don't see. The bankers made their worst mistake by allowing this law to become a law, despite the CBK governor informing them what was going on and the consequences that they faced.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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