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ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...OME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire]
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire] Just another gutter.....the official can't be named for blah blah reasons!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire] Just another gutter.....the official can't be named for blah blah reasons!!!! OK, give me one time AP have been off the ball? OK, let me go with your theory. I'm sure the one official item on record makes sense - Ole Lenku : Mattresses caused it. This official is named 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Intelligentsia wrote:mkenyan wrote:Wendz wrote:It's only that i still do not how to attach photos but there is this group of security men and there is one carrying a silver/aluminum briefcase like thing... i wondered what he would be carrying given the operation was ongoing.... what would he have been "rescuing"? Cash from the banks or jewelry? was it authorized or was it sticky fingers... anyone else seen it?
I never made much of it but now that questions are coming up and one was caught with bloody wallet... i don't know what to make of it now. if this the photo below then it looks more like military stuff than looted ones:  Kuwa mpole dada naomba - hio briefcase ni equipment ya ku jam radio signals so that al shaitan couldn't detonate an IED via mobile phone. The creeps had lined the corridors of the mall with bombs, awaiting kdf guys to pour in then they blast them. Check pia presidential securities when fikaing somewhere n you will see a soldier carrying such -color varies. I asked a question.... i did not accuse... just a clarification given the rumor going round. Thanks for the lesson. Something new learnt today.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire] Just another gutter.....the official can't be named for blah blah reasons!!!! OK, give me one time AP have been off the ball? OK, let me go with your theory. I'm sure the one official item on record makes sense - Ole Lenku : Mattresses caused it. This official is named Aha, now you see why what that purported official said cannot be absolute truth and even if we manage to name him, he could be the same one of the matress fame!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire] Just another gutter.....the official can't be named for blah blah reasons!!!! OK, give me one time AP have been off the ball? OK, let me go with your theory. I'm sure the one official item on record makes sense - Ole Lenku : Mattresses caused it. This official is named Aha, now you see why what that purported official said cannot be absolute truth and even if we manage to name him, he could be the same one of the matress fame!!!! Ndugu, let's just agree to disagree.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire] Just another gutter.....the official can't be named for blah blah reasons!!!! OK, give me one time AP have been off the ball? OK, let me go with your theory. I'm sure the one official item on record makes sense - Ole Lenku : Mattresses caused it. This official is named Aha, now you see why what that purported official said cannot be absolute truth and even if we manage to name him, he could be the same one of the matress fame!!!! I know having spoken to someone on the inside at least 8 RPGs had been fired by Tuesday. A lot more can be said when added up makes a lot of sense to this story but to what end when no one can be put on official GoK according to your mattress gospel. Let's just agree to disagree.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:we need to get the facts first. like for example, how do we know the terrorists didn't have bombs that they detonated causing the floors to collapse? When the Govt spokesman says the floors collapsed because of the heat 'due to fire lit by Al Shabaab' I think I error on the Al Shabaab side! If you have to lie, lie with style!! The issue here is - Is it true Al Shabaab tied hostages with explosives to pillars in the basement? I believe it is but looking at their twitter handle it seems they were unhappy their trap did not take out as many KDF as designed, why? Maybe simply because the KDF decided no hostage would make it out alive anyway so take out the attackers with their hostages and end any new calculated loss of life.. Confirmed: A gaping hole at Westgate Mall's roof was caused by Kenyan soldiers who fired rocket-propelled grenades inside, knocking out a support column. The soldiers fired to distract a terrorist sniper so hostages could be evacuated. As I said, here you have today's GoK confirmation - http://hosted.ap.org/dyn...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[ Really GoK confirmation??? Actually, remove GoK and insert [the officialdom you desire] Just another gutter.....the official can't be named for blah blah reasons!!!! OK, give me one time AP have been off the ball? OK, let me go with your theory. I'm sure the one official item on record makes sense - Ole Lenku : Mattresses caused it. This official is named Aha, now you see why what that purported official said cannot be absolute truth and even if we manage to name him, he could be the same one of the matress fame!!!! I know having spoken to someone on the inside at least 8 RPGs had been fired by Tuesday. A lot more can be said when added up makes a lot of sense to this story but to what end when no one can be put on official GoK according to your gospel. Let's just agree to disagree. FAIR ENOUGH!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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