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Politics update Tue 26-Mar-13
heavenly body
#171 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:13:16 PM
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Elder wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
900 page CORD affidavits on the way....... out........ pap....

Gone


Were these the affidavits supporting the main Petition or the one filed Monday seeking God knows what?...am totally lost
maka
#172 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:14:25 PM
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dunkang wrote:
so, does the 900 page affidavit rejection mean the 122 new polling stations are gone with the wind.

nope...
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muganda
#173 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:15:17 PM
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maka wrote:
murchr wrote:

If you havent noted, his submissions hold so much weight that those of Oraro and co hold no water. What am simply saying is that the man knows the law and he's out to defend it tooth to nail.

ok you have been heard


@maka I myself had given a score of 7/10 to Ahmednasir, because he carries sway - the judges appear to listen to him.

I'd not go as far as @murchr. Ahmednasir's submissions or knowledge is not very different from his co-counsels. I only find he stands out in his manner and directness.

Counsel Ngatia for example, though a bit long winded, makes very logical arguments - his submissions stand out where I'm concerned.
washiku
#174 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:18:43 PM
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IMHO, that re-tallying process ongoing might be the main determinant of this case. All these other arguments and counter-arguments do not really add much value.
kingfisher
#175 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:19:55 PM
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The Elections Act No.24 of 2011

Section 44. The Commission may use such technology as it considers appropriate in the electoral process.

what does that mean in view of failed technology???
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
masukuma
#176 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:21:06 PM
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muganda wrote:
So Supreme Court rules against Petitioners
score so far nil - 3 Good so far!

masukuma wrote:

it was not fair to ambush people like that... the truth is the case has been changing from when Raila raised his request first. Ndwiwa... 1.5 million votes, 5.7 m to 4.5m votes e.t.c.

At risk of sparking a world war @masukuma, you do realise if it is impossible to see any good in either party, then even a court case is pointless.

The judges only rule after weighing merits of both sides, meaning each side must have some point.

indeed...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kingfisher
#177 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:21:53 PM
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washiku wrote:
IMHO, that re-tallying process ongoing might be the main determinant of this case. All these other arguments and counter-arguments do not really add much value.


i agree with you. it is the numbers which will make or break in this petition... all these other sideshows are like the flower girls.
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heavenly body
#178 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:22:04 PM
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washiku wrote:
IMHO, that re-tallying process ongoing might be the main determinant of this case. All these other arguments and counter-arguments do not really add much value.



Wait a minute - is the re-tallying process ordered yesterday to be done manually or electronically? If manually, then what does it say for IEBC's argument that electronic tallying is only for purposes of enhancement and not mandatory?
kiriita
#179 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:28:29 PM
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Whereas the preliminary rulings have gone against the petitioners, most of the subject applications were sideshows - neither side has won/lost in real terms. Am in fact convinced that the forensic audit application was a red herring.


The only real substantive orders so far - the scrutiny/retallying etc orders read by Smokin yesterday. This is the crux of the matter and is a double edged sword...
dunkang
#180 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:35:45 PM
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kingfisher wrote:

The Elections Act No.24 of 2011

Section 44. The Commission may use such technology as it considers appropriate in the electoral process.

what does that mean in view of failed technology???


i think the key word is 'MAY' and not 'MUST'.
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