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ChessMaster
#171 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:17:06 PM
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@Impunity and tycho - What is availability in the sense of existence?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#172 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:24:03 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
@Impunity and tycho - What is availability in the sense of existence?


Self consciousness and action.
ChessMaster
#173 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:29:50 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@Impunity and tycho - What is availability in the sense of existence?


Self consciousness and action.


How is that different from being?

Hypnosis - Basically boils down to programming the brain to bypass the mind.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#174 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:42:09 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@Impunity and tycho - What is availability in the sense of existence?


Self consciousness and action.


How is that different from being?

Hypnosis - Basically boils down to programming the brain to bypass the mind.


It is not different. It includes being in other forms.

The brain is a tool of the mind. The mind cannot be bypassed.

Hypnosis is 'mind control' by the introduction of concepts through stealth. And is a characteristic of a Master - Slave relationship and is not mutual, or loving.
ChessMaster
#175 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:50:32 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@Impunity and tycho - What is availability in the sense of existence?


Self consciousness and action.


How is that different from being?

Hypnosis - Basically boils down to programming the brain to bypass the mind.


It is not different. It includes being in other forms.

The brain is a tool of the mind. The mind cannot be bypassed.

Hypnosis is 'mind control' by the introduction of concepts through stealth. And is a characteristic of a Master - Slave relationship and is not mutual, or loving.


So availability is all inclusive 'being' is different.

That's why I don't like hypnosis,its not based on good. The conscious mind is bypassed not the unconscious mind. When you say stealth thats what I mean by bypassing,concepts and information the brain is aware is receiving but the conscious mind is not.Although I think hypnosis can't make someone do what they don't want.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#176 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:00:52 PM
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CHANCE: action based on luck or fortune, risk or hazard

NATURE: action based on inherent qualities or personality traits

COMPULSION: action based on irrational, irresistible impulses

HABIT: action based on customs or practiced behavior

REASON: action based on a premise or cause in a belief, action, or event

PASSION: action based on a strong emotion, motive, or sexual desire

DESIRE: action based on a longing, craving, or want

Aristotles 7 causes of all human action,was he right or did he miss something/?
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Wakanyugi
#177 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:39:57 PM
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tycho wrote:


Of course! Man will still be the center!

Man, is now sitted on the throne as 'Man God'.


Wow!

Hold on Tycho.

When did we put man in the centre?

Nani alitoa hiyo amri?

Hebu jaribu tena.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#178 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:46:33 PM
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"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#179 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:48:55 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
[quote=tycho]

Of course! Man will still be the center!

Man, is now sitted on the throne as 'Man God'.


Here is simple, 'scientific' proof that man is not the center.

The good book says "By their fruits (creations) ye shall know them."

If man wanted to be the centre, she would have created a two dimensional Universe as the primary reality.

A four dimensional Universe has infinite centres.

In other words, every point in/on a closed Universe, one with light as the finite limiter, is the 'center.'

In (still) other words: "as long as you can't see any edge, you are in the centre.

So is everyone and everything else.

But that is not what you meant, was it?

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#180 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 12:01:09 AM
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@Wakanyugi, which good book have you been reading?

Sit down and read the book of Revelation, and do some critical thinking, and you'll find my words are most solidly defended.

Go to Genesis, and you'll find Man as the perceptual center.

Everything you say, and do, must begin with subjectivity.

Go back to the history of science, and there you'll Find Man God on the throne.

Amri imetoka wapi? Your role is not granting permission, it is being to the ultimate.
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