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Law Capping interest rates
obiero
#1781 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:01:14 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,251
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
josimar wrote:
In developed economies such as Japan , mortgage rates are offered at 1% and tenor is 30 Years .

That's untrue. And if it is, to mi and fellow wanjiku, its like preaching gospel to pharaoh. Eti 1% say per month and not per year.

Hii ndio ubaya ya kuishi Maragua au Yala and not being interested in global finance.. Its a fact that rates in Asia and Europe are at about 2 to 3 percent per annum with countries such as Japan having negative interest on borrowing!
https://mobile.nytimes.c...ive-interest-rates.html ^

Not true @Obiero!!! Negative interest rates are charged to banks by Central Banks not Banks to clients!!! The Central Bank charges banks an intrest when the bank keeps money at the Central Bank instead of paying the Bank interest. This discourages banks from holding cash (as opposed to lending).

Kindly post a link show a bank ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD giving loans to clients and charging negative interest rates!!!

Swiss alternative bank breaks negative rates taboo

German Bank Hits Rich Clients with Negative Interest Rates

Julius Baer splits negative rates between bank, clients and advisers

Danish bank charges ordinary customers for deposits as negative interest rates bite

RBS starts charging financial customers to park their cash

This is why I expect the euro to crash below parity vs USD unless they stop this negative interest rate policy lunacy!!!

This is not different from what we are saying. In each of those links customers are being charged for DEPOSITS in the Bank!. Instead of being paid interest for their deposits, they are charged. And that is exactly what used to happen in Kenya (only that it was given other names like ledger fees, account maintenance fee bla bla bla). You could leave 30k for example in an account go to Kandahar and when you come back you find your new balance is 20k.

What we are telling @Obiero, no bank anywhere in the world will give him a loan of x and expect him to pay less than x (a negative interest rate on the loan). And one wazuan has made this very easy on everyone and referred him to something called common sense. Surely, why would any bank want to give you 1,000,000/= and you pay back 900,000/= over a period of time while they take on the burden of processing, follow up, logistics etc. and bear all the risk of default!!??

Hmm.. Let me digest your information. Seems to make little sense. The bone of contention being that a rate of 2% against inflation of 4% is ideally a negative interest rate

MaichBlack
#1782 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:01:40 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,869
obiero wrote:
Wazua should pay me for the traffic I generate.. lol

@Obiero - None of us knows everything and that is why most of us are on wazua. It is a learning process.

When you are caught out on an argument (or whatever) accept and move on and be thankful that you learnt something which is hopefully what most of us are here to do.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
muandiwambeu
#1783 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:06:51 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wazua should pay me for the traffic I generate.. lol

@Obiero - None of us knows everything and that is why most of us are on wazua. It is a learning process.

When you are caught out on an argument (or whatever) accept and move on and be thankful that you learnt something which is hopefully most of us are here to do.

Wish, @maichblack, @obiero expressed whats concerns him. Mark properly and award appropriately.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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obiero
#1784 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:32:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,251
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wazua should pay me for the traffic I generate.. lol

@Obiero - None of us knows everything and that is why most of us are on wazua. It is a learning process.

When you are caught out on an argument (or whatever) accept and move on and be thankful that you learnt something which is hopefully what most of us are here to do.

I know everything boss

MaichBlack
#1785 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:49:33 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,869
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wazua should pay me for the traffic I generate.. lol

@Obiero - None of us knows everything and that is why most of us are on wazua. It is a learning process.

When you are caught out on an argument (or whatever) accept and move on and be thankful that you learnt something which is hopefully what most of us are here to do.

I know everything boss

Okay bro. I agree. The evidence is all over wazua for everyone to see starting with your signature investment KQ.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Swenani
#1786 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:07:13 PM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
josimar wrote:
In developed economies such as Japan , mortgage rates are offered at 1% and tenor is 30 Years .

That's untrue. And if it is, to mi and fellow wanjiku, its like preaching gospel to pharaoh. Eti 1% say per month and not per year.

Hii ndio ubaya ya kuishi Maragua au Yala and not being interested in global finance.. Its a fact that rates in Asia and Europe are at about 2 to 3 percent per annum with countries such as Japan having negative interest on borrowing!
https://mobile.nytimes.c...ive-interest-rates.html ^

Not true @Obiero!!! Negative interest rates are charged to banks by Central Banks not Banks to clients!!! The Central Bank charges banks an intrest when the bank keeps money at the Central Bank instead of paying the Bank interest. This discourages banks from holding cash (as opposed to lending).

Kindly post a link show a bank ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD giving loans to clients and charging negative interest rates!!!

Swiss alternative bank breaks negative rates taboo

German Bank Hits Rich Clients with Negative Interest Rates

Julius Baer splits negative rates between bank, clients and advisers

Danish bank charges ordinary customers for deposits as negative interest rates bite

RBS starts charging financial customers to park their cash

This is why I expect the euro to crash below parity vs USD unless they stop this negative interest rate policy lunacy!!!

This is not different from what we are saying. In each of those links customers are being charged for DEPOSITS in the Bank!. Instead of being paid interest for their deposits, they are charged. And that is exactly what used to happen in Kenya (only that it was given other names like ledger fees, account maintenance fee bla bla bla). You could leave 30k for example in an account go to Kandahar and when you come back you find your new balance is 20k.

What we are telling @Obiero, no bank anywhere in the world will give him a loan of x and expect him to pay less than x (a negative interest rate on the loan). And one wazuan has made this very easy on everyone and referred him to something called common sense. Surely, why would any bank want to give you 1,000,000/= and you pay back 900,000/= over a period of time while they take on the burden of processing, follow up, logistics etc. and bear all the risk of default!!??

Hmm.. Let me digest your information. Seems to make little sense. The bone of contention being that a rate of 2% against inflation of 4% is ideally a negative interest rate


components of interests are
1....
2....
3...
4.....
5. Inflation.

Show me one country where the interest rates are below the inflation rates?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
obiero
#1787 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:32:53 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,251
Location: nairobi
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
josimar wrote:
In developed economies such as Japan , mortgage rates are offered at 1% and tenor is 30 Years .

That's untrue. And if it is, to mi and fellow wanjiku, its like preaching gospel to pharaoh. Eti 1% say per month and not per year.

Hii ndio ubaya ya kuishi Maragua au Yala and not being interested in global finance.. Its a fact that rates in Asia and Europe are at about 2 to 3 percent per annum with countries such as Japan having negative interest on borrowing!
https://mobile.nytimes.c...ive-interest-rates.html ^

Not true @Obiero!!! Negative interest rates are charged to banks by Central Banks not Banks to clients!!! The Central Bank charges banks an intrest when the bank keeps money at the Central Bank instead of paying the Bank interest. This discourages banks from holding cash (as opposed to lending).

Kindly post a link show a bank ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD giving loans to clients and charging negative interest rates!!!

Swiss alternative bank breaks negative rates taboo

German Bank Hits Rich Clients with Negative Interest Rates

Julius Baer splits negative rates between bank, clients and advisers

Danish bank charges ordinary customers for deposits as negative interest rates bite

RBS starts charging financial customers to park their cash

This is why I expect the euro to crash below parity vs USD unless they stop this negative interest rate policy lunacy!!!

This is not different from what we are saying. In each of those links customers are being charged for DEPOSITS in the Bank!. Instead of being paid interest for their deposits, they are charged. And that is exactly what used to happen in Kenya (only that it was given other names like ledger fees, account maintenance fee bla bla bla). You could leave 30k for example in an account go to Kandahar and when you come back you find your new balance is 20k.

What we are telling @Obiero, no bank anywhere in the world will give him a loan of x and expect him to pay less than x (a negative interest rate on the loan). And one wazuan has made this very easy on everyone and referred him to something called common sense. Surely, why would any bank want to give you 1,000,000/= and you pay back 900,000/= over a period of time while they take on the burden of processing, follow up, logistics etc. and bear all the risk of default!!??

Hmm.. Let me digest your information. Seems to make little sense. The bone of contention being that a rate of 2% against inflation of 4% is ideally a negative interest rate


components of interests are
1....
2....
3...
4.....
5. Inflation.

Show me one country where the interest rates are below the inflation rates?

Let me research.. Will get back to you

hisah
#1788 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:52:23 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
obiero wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
josimar wrote:
In developed economies such as Japan , mortgage rates are offered at 1% and tenor is 30 Years .

That's untrue. And if it is, to mi and fellow wanjiku, its like preaching gospel to pharaoh. Eti 1% say per month and not per year.

Hii ndio ubaya ya kuishi Maragua au Yala and not being interested in global finance.. Its a fact that rates in Asia and Europe are at about 2 to 3 percent per annum with countries such as Japan having negative interest on borrowing!
https://mobile.nytimes.c...ive-interest-rates.html ^

Not true @Obiero!!! Negative interest rates are charged to banks by Central Banks not Banks to clients!!! The Central Bank charges banks an intrest when the bank keeps money at the Central Bank instead of paying the Bank interest. This discourages banks from holding cash (as opposed to lending).

Kindly post a link show a bank ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD giving loans to clients and charging negative interest rates!!!

Swiss alternative bank breaks negative rates taboo

German Bank Hits Rich Clients with Negative Interest Rates

Julius Baer splits negative rates between bank, clients and advisers

Danish bank charges ordinary customers for deposits as negative interest rates bite

RBS starts charging financial customers to park their cash

This is why I expect the euro to crash below parity vs USD unless they stop this negative interest rate policy lunacy!!!

This is not different from what we are saying. In each of those links customers are being charged for DEPOSITS in the Bank!. Instead of being paid interest for their deposits, they are charged. And that is exactly what used to happen in Kenya (only that it was given other names like ledger fees, account maintenance fee bla bla bla). You could leave 30k for example in an account go to Kandahar and when you come back you find your new balance is 20k.

What we are telling @Obiero, no bank anywhere in the world will give him a loan of x and expect him to pay less than x (a negative interest rate on the loan). And one wazuan has made this very easy on everyone and referred him to something called common sense. Surely, why would any bank want to give you 1,000,000/= and you pay back 900,000/= over a period of time while they take on the burden of processing, follow up, logistics etc. and bear all the risk of default!!??

Hmm.. Let me digest your information. Seems to make little sense. The bone of contention being that a rate of 2% against inflation of 4% is ideally a negative interest rate


components of interests are
1....
2....
3...
4.....
5. Inflation.

Show me one country where the interest rates are below the inflation rates?

Let me research.. Will get back to you

A Danish bank is paying borrowers to take a mortgage!!! - This article is translated and may have grammatical errors.

Tumbling Interest Rates in Europe Leave Some Banks Owing Money on Loans to Borrowers

Banks Pay Clients To Have A Home Loan?!

The ECB NIR policy has flipped over and turned utopia into the real world!!! Yet people expect the USD to become cheap!!!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
obiero
#1789 Posted : Wednesday, January 25, 2017 4:20:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,251
Location: nairobi
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
josimar wrote:
In developed economies such as Japan , mortgage rates are offered at 1% and tenor is 30 Years .

That's untrue. And if it is, to mi and fellow wanjiku, its like preaching gospel to pharaoh. Eti 1% say per month and not per year.

Hii ndio ubaya ya kuishi Maragua au Yala and not being interested in global finance.. Its a fact that rates in Asia and Europe are at about 2 to 3 percent per annum with countries such as Japan having negative interest on borrowing!
https://mobile.nytimes.c...ive-interest-rates.html ^

Not true @Obiero!!! Negative interest rates are charged to banks by Central Banks not Banks to clients!!! The Central Bank charges banks an intrest when the bank keeps money at the Central Bank instead of paying the Bank interest. This discourages banks from holding cash (as opposed to lending).

Kindly post a link show a bank ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD giving loans to clients and charging negative interest rates!!!

Swiss alternative bank breaks negative rates taboo

German Bank Hits Rich Clients with Negative Interest Rates

Julius Baer splits negative rates between bank, clients and advisers

Danish bank charges ordinary customers for deposits as negative interest rates bite

RBS starts charging financial customers to park their cash

This is why I expect the euro to crash below parity vs USD unless they stop this negative interest rate policy lunacy!!!

This is not different from what we are saying. In each of those links customers are being charged for DEPOSITS in the Bank!. Instead of being paid interest for their deposits, they are charged. And that is exactly what used to happen in Kenya (only that it was given other names like ledger fees, account maintenance fee bla bla bla). You could leave 30k for example in an account go to Kandahar and when you come back you find your new balance is 20k.

What we are telling @Obiero, no bank anywhere in the world will give him a loan of x and expect him to pay less than x (a negative interest rate on the loan). And one wazuan has made this very easy on everyone and referred him to something called common sense. Surely, why would any bank want to give you 1,000,000/= and you pay back 900,000/= over a period of time while they take on the burden of processing, follow up, logistics etc. and bear all the risk of default!!??

Hmm.. Let me digest your information. Seems to make little sense. The bone of contention being that a rate of 2% against inflation of 4% is ideally a negative interest rate


components of interests are
1....
2....
3...
4.....
5. Inflation.

Show me one country where the interest rates are below the inflation rates?

Let me research.. Will get back to you

A Danish bank is paying borrowers to take a mortgage!!! - This article is translated and may have grammatical errors.

Tumbling Interest Rates in Europe Leave Some Banks Owing Money on Loans to Borrowers

Banks Pay Clients To Have A Home Loan?!

The ECB NIR policy has flipped over and turned utopia into the real world!!! Yet people expect the USD to become cheap!!!

@hisah usipambane na watu wasiotaka kufungua akili kwa mwelekeo mpya wa riba

Ngalaka
#1790 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:13:02 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/29/2008
Posts: 1,566
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
josimar wrote:
In developed economies such as Japan , mortgage rates are offered at 1% and tenor is 30 Years .

That's untrue. And if it is, to mi and fellow wanjiku, its like preaching gospel to pharaoh. Eti 1% say per month and not per year.

Hii ndio ubaya ya kuishi Maragua au Yala and not being interested in global finance.. Its a fact that rates in Asia and Europe are at about 2 to 3 percent per annum with countries such as Japan having negative interest on borrowing!
https://mobile.nytimes.c...ive-interest-rates.html ^

Not true @Obiero!!! Negative interest rates are charged to banks by Central Banks not Banks to clients!!! The Central Bank charges banks an intrest when the bank keeps money at the Central Bank instead of paying the Bank interest. This discourages banks from holding cash (as opposed to lending).

Kindly post a link show a bank ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD giving loans to clients and charging negative interest rates!!!

Swiss alternative bank breaks negative rates taboo

German Bank Hits Rich Clients with Negative Interest Rates

Julius Baer splits negative rates between bank, clients and advisers

Danish bank charges ordinary customers for deposits as negative interest rates bite

RBS starts charging financial customers to park their cash

This is why I expect the euro to crash below parity vs USD unless they stop this negative interest rate policy lunacy!!!

This is not different from what we are saying. In each of those links customers are being charged for DEPOSITS in the Bank!. Instead of being paid interest for their deposits, they are charged. And that is exactly what used to happen in Kenya (only that it was given other names like ledger fees, account maintenance fee bla bla bla). You could leave 30k for example in an account go to Kandahar and when you come back you find your new balance is 20k.

What we are telling @Obiero, no bank anywhere in the world will give him a loan of x and expect him to pay less than x (a negative interest rate on the loan). And one wazuan has made this very easy on everyone and referred him to something called common sense. Surely, why would any bank want to give you 1,000,000/= and you pay back 900,000/= over a period of time while they take on the burden of processing, follow up, logistics etc. and bear all the risk of default!!??

Hmm.. Let me digest your information. Seems to make little sense. The bone of contention being that a rate of 2% against inflation of 4% is ideally a negative interest rate


components of interests are
1....
2....
3...
4.....
5. Inflation.

Show me one country where the interest rates are below the inflation rates?

Let me research.. Will get back to you

A Danish bank is paying borrowers to take a mortgage!!! - This article is translated and may have grammatical errors.

Tumbling Interest Rates in Europe Leave Some Banks Owing Money on Loans to Borrowers

Banks Pay Clients To Have A Home Loan?!

The ECB NIR policy has flipped over and turned utopia into the real world!!! Yet people expect the USD to become cheap!!!


Giving incentives for customers to buy a certain product is different from offering negative interest on loans.

The bottom line is that commercial bank are in business to make money.
We should then be sure that somewhere in the detail, the must be a catch.

Their end goal will be realised, - make money from you
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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