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radiomast
#2656 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:52:03 PM
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I just looked up Mutahi Kagwe's bio and it turns out he has a degree in commerce. This somewhat explains his sheer illiteracy about health, biology and how a vaccine works. But it does not explain it fully. I don't have a background in health either but even before Covid, I was curious enough to learn how vaccines work. This Kagwe guy just exposed his sheer illiteracy for the whole world to see. Its much worse than when Sonko said Hennessy can help with Coronavirus. Sonko is a mayor. Kagwe has no excuses. He should have atleast researched this topic. Makes you wonder what criteria is being used to select cabinet appointees. Few of them seem competent.
Lolest!
#2657 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:24:08 PM
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radiomast wrote:
I just looked up Mutahi Kagwe's bio and it turns out he has a degree in commerce. This somewhat explains his sheer illiteracy about health, biology and how a vaccine works. But it does not explain it fully. I don't have a background in health either but even before Covid, I was curious enough to learn how vaccines work. This Kagwe guy just exposed his sheer illiteracy for the whole world to see. Its much worse than when Sonko said Hennessy can help with Coronavirus. Sonko is a mayor. Kagwe has no excuses. He should have atleast researched this topic. Makes you wonder what criteria is being used to select cabinet appointees. Few of them seem competent.

Actually, even in a case where the minister isn't an expert in the matter, he ought to utilize his huge army of experts at his disposal.

On a different note, I read that Africans had understanding of vaccines before colonization. Leakey records that extracts from a recovering patient would be 'injected' into a patient.
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Gathige
#2658 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:31:23 PM
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radiomast wrote:
I just looked up Mutahi Kagwe's bio and it turns out he has a degree in commerce. This somewhat explains his sheer illiteracy about health, biology and how a vaccine works. But it does not explain it fully. I don't have a background in health either but even before Covid, I was curious enough to learn how vaccines work. This Kagwe guy just exposed his sheer illiteracy for the whole world to see. Its much worse than when Sonko said Hennessy can help with Coronavirus. Sonko is a mayor. Kagwe has no excuses. He should have atleast researched this topic. Makes you wonder what criteria is being used to select cabinet appointees. Few of them seem competent.



Tribal arithmetics.
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kmucheke
#2659 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:46:45 PM
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Lolest! wrote:

On a different note, I read that Africans had understanding of vaccines before colonization. Leakey records that extracts from a recovering patient would be 'injected' into a patient.


Yes this is true and has been confirmed by many scholars and historians.

Smallpox inoculation existed in sub-Saharan Africa way before the white man arrived. Infact some slaves carried the practice across the Atlantic.
omega
#2660 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 6:12:10 PM
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kmucheke wrote:
Lolest! wrote:

On a different note, I read that Africans had understanding of vaccines before colonization. Leakey records that extracts from a recovering patient would be 'injected' into a patient.


Yes this is true and has been confirmed by many scholars and historians.

Smallpox inoculation existed in sub-Saharan Africa way before the white man arrived. Infact some slaves carried the practice across the Atlantic.


How an African Slave in Boston Helped Save Generations from Smallpox
wukan
#2661 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 6:42:17 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Behold your Cabinet Secretary

Quote:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt - It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid


Kagwe is right mwafrika should stay away from those vaccines. covid is a disease that seems to strike at Neanderthal genes which are absent in mwafrika.


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A recent genetic association study1 identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative)2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3


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“I almost fell off my chair because the segment of DNA was exactly the same as in the Neanderthal genome,” Hugo Zeberg, an assistant professor at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, told the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian....s-covid-19-study-claims
radiomast
#2662 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:17:27 PM
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wukan wrote:

A recent genetic association study1 identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative)2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3



Interesting theory. If 50% of South Asians i.e. Indians have this gene, I would expect the death rate in India to be very high. It is not. The highest death rates are in Europe and North America


essyk
#2663 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2020 1:24:40 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Corona is getting worse. I lost an uncle this week after him being in ICU for a while. Health conscious guy who was hitting gym and living alcohol free life. A friend also tested positive and lost two former schoolmates. Things are getting hectic


This girl a worker at a clinic complained of symptoms.Loss of taste slight cough etc.
The doc, my relative asked her to go for testing and report back.
She went got tested but kept the report in her bag.She reported to work as usual while the doc was away.
Later that evening the doc walks in asks her to give him the report and bang! Its positive.It didn't sound like a big deal to her.She took it casually.
She was asked to go isolate and the entire place disinfected.
Now 3 workers at the clinic are infected.
One has a baby the others are family people with children back home.
A very close relative is among the infected. Kemri gave her the report today.I saw the text and said here it is hitting home.
That girl,the worker will go to church on Sunday as usual.
Across the road,in the neighbouring apartments I saw the covid disinfecting people with their cans vehicle and protective gear..It sent a shiver down my spine.
The doctor told me that the situation is totally out of control.So many people have it but feel okay and care less until they infect the weak ones.
They only tell you to go isolate at home.
On your way home you infect so many people and because you need food you report to work.
That mask is a treasure.Avoid contact and crowds at all costs.
The gvt doesnt care.They are bbi focused.


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masukuma
#2664 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2020 8:58:13 AM
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wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Behold your Cabinet Secretary

Quote:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt - It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid


Kagwe is right mwafrika should stay away from those vaccines. covid is a disease that seems to strike at Neanderthal genes which are absent in mwafrika.


Quote:
A recent genetic association study1 identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative)2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3


Quote:
“I almost fell off my chair because the segment of DNA was exactly the same as in the Neanderthal genome,” Hugo Zeberg, an assistant professor at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, told the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian....s-covid-19-study-claims

We all know that
1) the drop in deaths is correlated to the increase in sunshine across the northern hemisphere (summer). If we observe that deaths start spiking in Jan, Feb when Vitamin D levels go to their lowest in high latitude countries... it will be set
2) Kagwe's UNDERSTANDING of how Vaccination works is what is dodgy. He is the top Health Guy in the country. I understand he is not a health professional but the best he can do is ask BY THE WAY... How do they know 90% prevention takes place? (Hint... it actually be generation of antibodies... we give 10 people who had not been infected before the vaccine and then check to see how many of them acquired antibodies after the vaccine. 9 out of 10 generate antibodies - we know that it has a 90% efficiency)
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wukan
#2665 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2020 9:43:29 AM
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masukuma wrote:

We all know that
1) the drop in deaths is correlated to the increase in sunshine across the northern hemisphere (summer). If we observe that deaths start spiking in Jan, Feb when Vitamin D levels go to their lowest in high latitude countries... it will be set
2) Kagwe's UNDERSTANDING of how Vaccination works is what is dodgy. He is the top Health Guy in the country. I understand he is not a health professional but the best he can do is ask BY THE WAY... How do they know 90% prevention takes place? (Hint... it actually be generation of antibodies... we give 10 people who had not been infected before the vaccine and then check to see how many of them acquired antibodies after the vaccine. 9 out of 10 generate antibodies - we know that it has a 90% efficiency)


On No.2 have you seen how that pfizer vaccine is being developed? It is not using the old way doing vaccine using the dead virus to build body immunity instead they are using some parts of the RNA. Then it has to be super cooled before it can be used(imagine in the heat of equator). This is boeing 737-max of vaccines. Wacha ikae!
sqft
#2666 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2020 12:00:09 PM
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Russian vaccine is 99% effective.
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masukuma
#2667 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2020 3:17:32 PM
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sqft wrote:
Russian vaccine is 99% effective.

The Russian one is claimed to be 92% effective not 99%
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Bigchick
#2668 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2020 8:51:19 PM
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Somewhere along the way we had very many people talking about loss of smell and taste. ......What is the current status?Has that wind passed?
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essyk
#2669 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:54:05 PM
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Bigchick
#2670 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:44:39 AM
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@Mpobiz,you said it was a mild home and that we shall all get it.Now see the havoc it is visiting on us.This cannot be mild anymore.

Keep safe guys.
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