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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
AlphDoti
#1771 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:12:15 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/25/dont-worry-eldoret-police-tell-voters-after-more-hate-leaflets_c1603633

On Monday, Mandago met members of the Luo and Luhya communities in Eldoret where he urged them to vote for him and accused Buzeki of inciting communities using the leaflets and forged county letters.

The county has more than 450,000 voters and almost half of them are not from the Kalenjin community. Some of the groups have been classified as swing communities.


I have no idea what is happening in Eld but it doesn't sound nice. Considering they are both Jubilee, Uhuru and Ruto should intervene to calm the tension in the town. Its taking a very ugly tribal angle.

True, Uhuru and Ruto need to intervene. It seems the people are speaking but these two are not reading the signs. My opinion is if swing communities insist in OPENLY alienating themselves, it may not be very good now or 2022. Uasin Gishu guys had chosen Mandago but WSR seems to be vouching for Bzki in the back scenes...
simonkabz
#1772 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:17:34 PM
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WSR is his own worst enemy. He has managed to plant acolytes all over.......Nairobi, Kiambu, Murang'a.........Yet his own backyard is rebelling against his choices. He needs to be extra careful. You cannot afford to keep making enemies at every turn and on every move.
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Njung'e
#1773 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:19:03 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=hardwood]

I have no idea what is happening in Eld but it doesn't sound nice. Considering they are both Jubilee, Uhuru and Ruto should intervene to calm the tension in the town. Its taking a very ugly tribal angle.


Relax. It's nothing. Mandago and a cabal of current MCAs want to maintain the status quo. Nandis are squarely behind Mandago. Keiyos, who are a minority, backed by non-Kalenjins, are backing Buzeki. It's a case of evil versus good but it will be over soon.
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AlphDoti
#1774 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:22:34 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
I have no idea what is happening in Eld but it doesn't sound nice. Considering they are both Jubilee, Uhuru and Ruto should intervene to calm the tension in the town. Its taking a very ugly tribal angle.

Relax. It's nothing. Mandago and a cabal of current MCAs want to maintain the status quo. Nandis are squarely behind Mandago. Keiyos, who are a minority, backed by non-Kalenjins, are backing Buzeki. It's a case of evil versus good but it will be over soon.

@guka stop lying. Have you left out the real tribe behind Bzki? I say WhatsApp group where they are saying he's their son-in-law? Could this be the real reason ? Shame on you Sad
Much Know
#1775 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:24:15 PM
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Kalonzo: How we tricked Uhuru and Jubilee to miss debate
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AlphDoti
#1776 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:25:14 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
WSR is his own worst enemy. He has managed to plant acolytes all over... Nairobi, Kiambu, Murang'a.........Yet his own backyard is rebelling against his choices. He needs to be extra careful. You cannot afford to keep making enemies at every turn and on every move.

Come to think of it, it could be the strategy... By showing that sth can erupt sends a warning to those who might be thinking of betraying him in 2022 by not scratching his back... Sad
hardwood
#1777 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:28:24 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=hardwood]

I have no idea what is happening in Eld but it doesn't sound nice. Considering they are both Jubilee, Uhuru and Ruto should intervene to calm the tension in the town. Its taking a very ugly tribal angle.


Relax. It's nothing. Mandago and a cabal of current MCAs want to maintain the status quo. Nandis are squarely behind Mandago. Keiyos, who are a minority, backed by non-Kalenjins, are backing Buzeki. It's a case of evil versus good but it will be over soon.


I thought eldoret/Uasin Gishu is very cosmopolitan being the 5th largest town in kenya with 3 universities, referral hospital, central bank, all major banks, industries etc etc. There must be thousands of immigrant workers. So why single out just one community...and talk to the others to vote for you?
Fyatu
#1778 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:49:37 PM
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Much Know wrote:


Did RAO use the word "Watermelon" in his 90 minutes interview? Who was he talking about? We all know DP Ruto was diehard "Green" and Uhuru was "Red". Did RAO contort his face immedietly after uttering this word?....watu hapa job ya Muhindi bado wanabishana kuhusu debate..mi sikuskia RAO akiongea hiyo maneno
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Wakanyugi
#1779 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:58:31 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The media debate Ltd is owned by a NASA sycophant. It was a set up glad UK missed, that's why the questions were favorable.


I am sure someone will obtain the details from the registrar of companies by the end of the day. I would be shocked if K24 failed to notice such a glaring blunder.

ION, Baba has received a very warm welcome in Runyenjes. Like I keep saying, they do not have to vote for him. But the fact that they are willing to sit and listen calmly to Raila is a big score for our growing democracy.


Yesnyewe Uhuru really messed up by not showing up last night. I wonder who advised him on this? If he losses this election, this will be traced to the day he showed the middle finger to Kenyans. I hope he does.

RAO on the other hand finally got his chance to look Presidential and really showed his statesmanship credentials. He even gave up easy opportunities to really hammer an absent Uhuru (I felt his take on corruption was rather tepid). But who can forget his spirited defense of both himself and Uhuru from the accusation that their families have captured Kenyan politics?

In my opinion his many miscues and problem with lighting actually humanized him, especially when he explained the genesis of his poor eyesight - detention. The Raila ogre that Jubilee have been desperately trying to paint was slain last night.

Will this turn the tide? I am doubtful. I still can't see RAO's path to dislodging the GEMA/Kalenjin voting juggernaut. But I believe he will come out of this competition the better man and his future as a respected senior statesman is largely made.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#1780 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:01:01 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The media debate Ltd is owned by a NASA sycophant. It was a set up glad UK missed, that's why the questions were favorable.


I am sure someone will obtain the details from the registrar of companies by the end of the day. I would be shocked if K24 failed to notice such a glaring blunder.

ION, Baba has received a very warm welcome in Runyenjes. Like I keep saying, they do not have to vote for him. But the fact that they are willing to sit and listen calmly to Raila is a big score for our growing democracy.


Yesnyewe Uhuru really messed up by not showing up last night. I wonder who advised him on this? If he losses this election, this will be traced to the day he showed the middle finger to Kenyans. I hope he does.

RAO on the other hand finally got his chance to look Presidential and really showed his statesmanship credentials. He even gave up easy opportunities to really hammer an absent Uhuru (I felt his take on corruption was rather tepid). But who can forget his spirited defense of both himself and Uhuru from the accusation that their families have captured Kenyan politics?

In my opinion his many miscues and problem with lighting actually humanized him, especially when he explained the genesis of his poor eyesight - detention. The Raila ogre that Jubilee have been desperately trying to paint was slain last night.

Will this turn the tide? I am doubtful. I still can't see RAO's path to dislodging the GEMA/Kalenjin voting juggernaut. But I believe he will come out of this competition the better man and his future as a respected senior statesman is largely made.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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