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josiah33
#161 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:36:35 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@josiah33 - I think we are in agreement. Because what you've said is how I'm thinking about it. Now let me ask you a question,if time doesn't exist,define beginning.

Try and figure out what this mean, maybe there's some clue there-
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eternity is neither infinitely back from the present moment nor infinitely ahead from the present moment, eternity is contained in atemporal space, it meaning in this present moment.


I am having a headache just trying to understand what that means.


Eternity starts with 0+1+1+....infinity. You can't infinitely count back to the past because you reach to zero at some point.The start. Each moment of progression is a moment in eternity because even eternity plays out moment by moment.

Well, well...do i still need to tell u about the beginning?
simonkabz
#162 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:39:46 PM
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tycho wrote:
Landing is a very serious matter.


Hehe this coming from u is damn funny.
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josiah33
#163 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:41:01 PM
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Hehehehe! now i know where @tycho got that username- Tycho Brahe.
ChessMaster
#164 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:41:44 PM
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@josiah33 - No.
@tycho - If we discover other physically intelligent life forms like ourselves,will man still remain at the center.
@simonkabz - Enyewe,anything tycho is a mystery to wazuans.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#165 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:07:50 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
tycho wrote:
Landing is a very serious matter.


Hehe this coming from u is damn funny.


Why? Hahaha!
tycho
#166 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:10:42 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
@josiah33 - No.
@tycho - If we discover other physically intelligent life forms like ourselves,will man still remain at the center.
@simonkabz - Enyewe,anything tycho is a mystery to wazuans.


Of course! Man will still be the center!

Man, is now sitted on the throne as 'Man God'.
josiah33
#167 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:14:29 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@josiah33 - No.
@tycho - If we discover other physically intelligent life forms like ourselves,will man still remain at the center.
@simonkabz - Enyewe,anything tycho is a mystery to wazuans.


Of course! Man will still be the center!

Man, is now sitted on the throne as 'Man God'.

Applause Applause Applause I like that.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Impunity
#168 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:14:37 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@josiah33 - I think we are in agreement. Because what you've said is how I'm thinking about it. Now let me ask you a question,if time doesn't exist,define beginning.


Beginning > The point in time or space at which something starts.

But time doesn't exist so we cannot exclusively define beginning.

Can we have an end without a beginning?
d'oh! d'oh!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Another question,does space have a beginning?


Your question again falls into the above trap.

And thinking about it, it was the same trap that led to the 'Tychonic system' which was Tycho Brahe's attempt to reconcile religion and science in the early days of the Scientific revolution.

He was sure that Man was 'the' center of the universe, but natural science, had shown that the earth wasn't the center of the universe, even in terms of 'attention'.

Tycho had to cling on the idea that the sun and moon moved around the earth, while the other planets revolved around the sun.

But now we can modify the Tychonic system as:

Man, is the Unifier of the perception to ultimate being, and is thus, at 'the' center of the universe.


I think we need to define exclusively what we understood by the term "existence".
Does existence refer to availability or being?
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tycho
#169 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:24:14 PM
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@Impunity, existence has to be an inclusive of both availability, and being.

For if, there's availability, then the available must be.

And so must being imply availability.
tycho
#170 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:00:53 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@josiah33 - No.
@tycho - If we discover other physically intelligent life forms like ourselves,will man still remain at the center.
@simonkabz - Enyewe,anything tycho is a mystery to wazuans.


Of course! Man will still be the center!

Man, is now sitted on the throne as 'Man God'.

Applause Applause Applause I like that.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


You are most welcome to Nobility.
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