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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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kollabo wrote:I thought one pilot is supposed to fly only once after every 5 days. So a pilot only works for 6 days in a month and is paid all that money? Why can't the peg remuneration on LoE If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:kollabo wrote:I thought one pilot is supposed to fly only once after every 5 days. So a pilot only works for 6 days in a month and is paid all that money? Why can't the peg remuneration on LoE Life is so unfair... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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maka wrote:Swenani wrote:kollabo wrote:I thought one pilot is supposed to fly only once after every 5 days. So a pilot only works for 6 days in a month and is paid all that money? Why can't the peg remuneration on LoE Life is so unfair... They’ve lots of time!. …now their demands are to chase away the management. Once accomplished, agitate for more pay….
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,703
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maka wrote:Swenani wrote:Thiong'o wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:mugo2of3 wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Possible pilots strike starting next week....these guys suck. management would be wise to let the strike proceed and use it to offload the weakest links.. a good number of the staff at KQ need to be taught a tough lesson on collective responsibility of the airlines performance/existence Especially those whose their fathers are who is who in gaaament and Board of management fear firing them. Ronald Karauri taking KQ hostage... KALPA is a dark force, a rebel without cause.. Jitters of the seabury, mckinsey changes are the cause of the sudden panic.. Lets see what happens on 29.01.16.. I repeat, this is not the perfect time to buy.. I await 02.04.16 I beg to disagree with the opinions herein, typical case of us ignoring the root-cause and concentrating on the symptoms; In today's BDaily, Kabaara has summarized the KQ malaise as Quote: a “negative balanced scorecard” – customer apathy, process failure and HR management malfunction, balanced by management hubris and negative financials. Customer apathy leads to all the other factors. And consistently disgruntled clients are never caused outright by management, but by front line staff.. You may have a point, but I dont see it yet @obiero, point balnk=customers are not only dissatisfied, disgruntled and jilted but also roughed up, shafted and shafted. What a heck! You Do not bite the teet that feedeth thee. This KQ baby has a long way to baby sit before I start singing, come babe come.  . However thanks for putting things into perspective for whomever has eyes and hears. Two Unions, same employer, different positions The Kenya Aviation Workers Union (Kawu) mONday came out in support of KQ’s management, claiming the pilots lacked the mandate to force a regime change. The Kawu, a union of about 10,000 -- a quarter of whom are KQ employees excluding pilots, on Monday came out in support of the ongoing restructuring at the airline. Moss Ndiema, the union’s secretary- general, said the airline’s pilots should bear part of the burden of KQ’s declining profitability due to their “high pay despite poor productivity.” “Kalpa and their members cannot escape blame for grossly unattainable collective bargaining agreement demands that have skewed the wage bill in their favour despite low productivity,” Mr Ndiema said in a press conference. http://www.businessdaily...6/-/eu7uyd/-/index.html
chisos, 500 pilots with a fleet of less than 46? Quote:KQ has approximately 500 pilots, a majority of whom are Kalpa members. pampered oafs.... Ati they are demanding the entire management to be fired. Never mind all the failings and blunders of the management, but who the hell do these pilots think they are??? Shareholders. I think they have over stepped the boundary. You can have a company where the management are bullied and company forced to fire them by employees who are junior to the said management. How future management teams manage or pay discussions with fellows who can push them out??? Too much power. Both real and imagined!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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@maichblack you have have hit the nail on the head.. an employee should never manage the manager, atleast not forcefully!!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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"Now if I get the urge to invest in airlines, I call an 800 number, and I say: 'Hello, my name is Warren, and I'm an air-o-holic,'" said Warren Buffett Decades later, the billionaire still considers airline investing to be a death trap. "Investors have poured their money into airlines and airline manufacturers for 100 years with terrible results" he said at the 2013 Berkshire Hathaway annual shareholders meeting. He has even gone as far as to call his ventures in the sector "temporary insanity." Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. @Obiero - Just tell us. We don't have your insights and 'buddy-ship' with Ngunze and Mbugua. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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You call buying 600 shares of KQ loading up? obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Spikes wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. This is what UK should do to KQ  Pilots and everybody else will fall in line 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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sl8r wrote:Spikes wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. This is what UK should do to KQ Pilots and everybody else will fall in line It needs s country with a dictator not democracy. Should UK do that then massive lawsuit will follow. Putin is a dictator. They all know that and there is nothing they can do about it
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:You call buying 600 shares of KQ loading up? obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. Yes. Any share bought is called loading up. Or u wanted me to call it selling?? Some people..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. I glady accept the term lord of mediocrity. So Ngunze never went to school?? He never held any high profile jobs before KQ?? Pole sana, I dint know.. I agree with you now, Ngunze is unschooled and therefore incapable of leading KQ
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. I glady accept the term lord of mediocrity. So Ngunze never went to school?? He never held any high profile jobs before KQ?? Pole sana, I dint know.. I agree with you now, Ngunze is unschooled and therefore incapable of leading KQ You have never known the most corrupt in Kenya are the most highly educated. Look at what happens across the board. The schooled have plundered this nation beyond repair. It is about one's character. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. I glady accept the term lord of mediocrity. So Ngunze never went to school?? He never held any high profile jobs before KQ?? Pole sana, I dint know.. I agree with you now, Ngunze is unschooled and therefore incapable of leading KQ You have never known the most corrupt in Kenya are the most highly educated. Look at what happens across the board. The schooled have plundered this nation beyond repair. It is about one's character. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:loaded up extra.. approachin target of 5k. In other news, Ngunze must put his foot down on this.. Futa jangili moja au mbili for some strong reasons but not the son of who is who in Kenyan politics. that will be a live electric wire. the ones to be fired will be sons on nobodies . hii kelele sio bure, someone is making noise knowing they have a backing of their dads. trust me I wont be surprised if Nguze goes.aint the parliament vying for their blood too?now pilots? this is just drama like the Kardashans Please research just a little about the Ngunze family and its ties to the Kenyatta family.. if that's the case then let the fight of titans begin @Obiero tonight we have ordained you the lord of mediocrity glorifying cronyism, nepotism and all ill manners of -isms in an authoritative thread. In all seriousness, how could you heroe-worship Ngunze on the mere fact that he has ties to Kenyatta family? You should commit to your memory that you got burnt materially because of questionable appointments to state-held corporations. I think it is long overdue Ngunze calls it quits. I glady accept the term lord of mediocrity. So Ngunze never went to school?? He never held any high profile jobs before KQ?? Pole sana, I dint know.. I agree with you now, Ngunze is unschooled and therefore incapable of leading KQ You have never known the most corrupt in Kenya are the most highly educated. Look at what happens across the board. The schooled have plundered this nation beyond repair. It is about one's character. Are Uhuru and Ngunze corrupt. Site with examples and dont refer to their parents!
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