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Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the
Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman
Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope... @kratos, let us see this verse from the Quran, and use our brains to see if Catholics came up with this verse: " ...And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God. There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!" (Quran 9:29-31) Definition monk [muhngk]
noun
1. (in Christianity) a man who has withdrawn from the world for religious reasons, especially as a member of an order of cenobites living according to a particular rule and under vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
Synonyms
1. brother. Monk, friar refer to members of special male groups whose lives are devoted to the service of the church, especially in Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox denominations. A monk is properly a member of a monastery, under a superior; he is bound by a vow of stability, and is a co-owner of the community property of the monastery.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
Of course you see no correlation between that habit and the fact that they have been involved in numerous wars all over the world all the while touching the tusk of the elephant in the room and insisting it is just a spear. Suit yourself.
1. they have been outed in regards to this maneuver and public support for 'retaliation' in the face of 'provocations' will be reduced and politicians being politicians will pander to the whims of their electorate.
2. they have lost the initiative on the ground in Syria and now can only react
3. one option they can use to react is sanctions and threats of international criminal court of which you have been hearing a lot about, haven't you?
4. the other option is to be schizophrenic and allow more sophisticated weaponry into the hands of jihadists and those to whom the basic tenets of democracy like voting out a government is foreign which you have also been hearing a lot about.
Whatever we discuss here the above 4 points stand.
How does any of this relate to the fact that old training photos are being used as "evidence" of current false flag missions? The dodgy operations of the US armed forces over the years are documented very well in the public domain.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:A crusade? Crusades were Catholic holy wars fought during the Dark Ages against Moslem hordes who refused to relinquish Jerusalem to the pope. What does George Bush mean by a crusade? Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope. For the first few hundred years of their existence, Islam did just that. When it came time for the powerful generals of the Islamic armies to surrender Jerusalem to the pope, they, realizing their power, refused to give it
up. Thus, the papacy created the Crusades to drive the Islamic forces out of Jerusalem, and establish the throne of the pope in Jerusalem @kratos, even just using a single cell in your medulla oblongata, you would simply ask why would the Catholics create a system that is adverse to the Catholic Church? This idea conceived by Alberto Rivera, anti-Catholic activist (born recently 1935–1997) is just a sensational and exciting novelty. Because, there is no single piece of primary evidence i.e. documentation to that regard other than anti-catholic novels. I've told you once and again that if you want to know the origin of Islam, look at the book. Islam is the Quran Koran. Without the Quran, there is no Islam. So certain parts of the authority you cited is inconvenient! I get it! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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chemirocha wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:
Of course you see no correlation between that habit and the fact that they have been involved in numerous wars all over the world all the while touching the tusk of the elephant in the room and insisting it is just a spear. Suit yourself.
1. they have been outed in regards to this maneuver and public support for 'retaliation' in the face of 'provocations' will be reduced and politicians being politicians will pander to the whims of their electorate.
2. they have lost the initiative on the ground in Syria and now can only react
3. one option they can use to react is sanctions and threats of international criminal court of which you have been hearing a lot about, haven't you?
4. the other option is to be schizophrenic and allow more sophisticated weaponry into the hands of jihadists and those to whom the basic tenets of democracy like voting out a government is foreign which you have also been hearing a lot about.
Whatever we discuss here the above 4 points stand.
How does any of this relate to the fact that old training photos are being used as "evidence" of current false flag missions? The dodgy operations of the US armed forces over the years are documented very well in the public domain. You are quite capable of interrogating all information available out there and having a balanced worldview. And let no slick operatives in Langley herd you to think otherwise of yourself. The question you are asking have answers that for your own benefit you must seek yourself and not let me spoon feed you. Yes, it is that transparent, readily available and most important it does not have to rely on me to defend it. I have faith in you .... go for it.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:A crusade? Crusades were Catholic holy wars fought during the Dark Ages against Moslem hordes who refused to relinquish Jerusalem to the pope. What does George Bush mean by a crusade? Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope. For the first few hundred years of their existence, Islam did just that. When it came time for the powerful generals of the Islamic armies to surrender Jerusalem to the pope, they, realizing their power, refused to give it
up. Thus, the papacy created the Crusades to drive the Islamic forces out of Jerusalem, and establish the throne of the pope in Jerusalem @kratos, even just using a single cell in your medulla oblongata, you would simply ask why would the Catholics create a system that is adverse to the Catholic Church? This idea conceived by Alberto Rivera, anti-Catholic activist (born recently 1935–1997) is just a sensational and exciting novelty. Because, there is no single piece of primary evidence i.e. documentation to that regard other than anti-catholic novels. I've told you once and again that if you want to know the origin of Islam, look at the book. Islam is the Quran Koran. Without the Quran, there is no Islam. So certain parts of the authority you cited is inconvenient! I get it! I doubt Alphadoti had read the whole thing before posting it here 
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the
Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman
Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope... @kratos, let us see this verse from the Quran, and use our brains to see if Catholics came up with this verse: " ...And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God. There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!" (Quran 9:29-31) Definition monk [muhngk]
noun
1. (in Christianity) a man who has withdrawn from the world for religious reasons, especially as a member of an order of cenobites living according to a particular rule and under vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
Synonyms
1. brother. Monk, friar refer to members of special male groups whose lives are devoted to the service of the church, especially in Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox denominations. A monk is properly a member of a monastery, under a superior; he is bound by a vow of stability, and is a co-owner of the community property of the monastery. Am not sure where you are going with this. I asked a simple question ie if you agree with the statement from a book that you have proposed others to read.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Kratos wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:A crusade? Crusades were Catholic holy wars fought during the Dark Ages against Moslem hordes who refused to relinquish Jerusalem to the pope. What does George Bush mean by a crusade? Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope. For the first few hundred years of their existence, Islam did just that. When it came time for the powerful generals of the Islamic armies to surrender Jerusalem to the pope, they, realizing their power, refused to give it
up. Thus, the papacy created the Crusades to drive the Islamic forces out of Jerusalem, and establish the throne of the pope in Jerusalem @kratos, even just using a single cell in your medulla oblongata, you would simply ask why would the Catholics create a system that is adverse to the Catholic Church? This idea conceived by Alberto Rivera, anti-Catholic activist (born recently 1935–1997) is just a sensational and exciting novelty. Because, there is no single piece of primary evidence i.e. documentation to that regard other than anti-catholic novels. I've told you once and again that if you want to know the origin of Islam, look at the book. Islam is the Quran Koran. Without the Quran, there is no Islam. So certain parts of the authority you cited is inconvenient!I get it! I doubt Alphadoti had read the whole thing before posting it here @Kratos, I admit... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the
Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman
Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope... @kratos, let us see this verse from the Quran, and use our brains to see if Catholics came up with this verse: " ...And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God. There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!" (Quran 9:29-31) Definition monk [muhngk]
noun
1. (in Christianity) a man who has withdrawn from the world for religious reasons, especially as a member of an order of cenobites living according to a particular rule and under vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
Synonyms
1. brother. Monk, friar refer to members of special male groups whose lives are devoted to the service of the church, especially in Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox denominations. A monk is properly a member of a monastery, under a superior; he is bound by a vow of stability, and is a co-owner of the community property of the monastery. Am not sure where you are going with this. I asked a simple question ie if you agree with the statement from a book that you have proposed others to read. I don't agree with what Alberto said here.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:A crusade? Crusades were Catholic holy wars fought during the Dark Ages against Moslem hordes who refused to relinquish Jerusalem to the pope. What does George Bush mean by a crusade? Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope. For the first few hundred years of their existence, Islam did just that. When it came time for the powerful generals of the Islamic armies to surrender Jerusalem to the pope, they, realizing their power, refused to give it
up. Thus, the papacy created the Crusades to drive the Islamic forces out of Jerusalem, and establish the throne of the pope in Jerusalem @kratos, even just using a single cell in your medulla oblongata, you would simply ask why would the Catholics create a system that is adverse to the Catholic Church? This idea conceived by Alberto Rivera, anti-Catholic activist (born recently 1935–1997) is just a sensational and exciting novelty. Because, there is no single piece of primary evidence i.e. documentation to that regard other than anti-catholic novels. I've told you once and again that if you want to know the origin of Islam, look at the book. Islam is the Quran Koran. Without the Quran, there is no Islam. So certain parts of the authority you cited is inconvenient!I get it! I doubt Alphadoti had read the whole thing before posting it here @Kratos, I admit... This is what happens when you spend all you life concocting patch-works of conspiracy theories and backing them up with what is at best shadowy pieces pulled right from the gutter! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:Do you agree with this statement from that book? Quote:A crusade? Crusades were Catholic holy wars fought during the Dark Ages against Moslem hordes who refused to relinquish Jerusalem to the pope. What does George Bush mean by a crusade? Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit priest, in his crusader series, has made it clear that the Vatican created Islam to destroy Christians and Jews, protect Roman Catholics, and to capture Jerusalem for the pope. For the first few hundred years of their existence, Islam did just that. When it came time for the powerful generals of the Islamic armies to surrender Jerusalem to the pope, they, realizing their power, refused to give it
up. Thus, the papacy created the Crusades to drive the Islamic forces out of Jerusalem, and establish the throne of the pope in Jerusalem @kratos, even just using a single cell in your medulla oblongata, you would simply ask why would the Catholics create a system that is adverse to the Catholic Church? This idea conceived by Alberto Rivera, anti-Catholic activist (born recently 1935–1997) is just a sensational and exciting novelty. Because, there is no single piece of primary evidence i.e. documentation to that regard other than anti-catholic novels. I've told you once and again that if you want to know the origin of Islam, look at the book. Islam is the Quran Koran. Without the Quran, there is no Islam. So certain parts of the authority you cited is inconvenient!I get it! I doubt Alphadoti had read the whole thing before posting it here @Kratos, I admit... This is what happens when you spend all you life concocting patch-works of conspiracy theories and backing them up with what is at best shadowy pieces pulled right from the gutter! lol....Alphdoti could be a mole........ Planted to kill confidence in alternative views ......
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