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Nandwa wrote:I expected better from the resident self styled Muslim defenders not the usual reactionism aka knee jerk hatred for USA.
How are the people of Syria subjected to untold suffering supposed to be helped out of the quagmire by the rest of the world!
Who is offering a practical and sustainable way towards normalisation of the situation in Syria.
Where do the Syrian refugees wish to flee to? Russia!!!! Opposition to USA is not always a knee jerk hatred thing. It is often well thought out and it often based on data and evidence. A first step towards normalisation of the situation is to stop supplying arms to evil groups intent on overthrowing an already existing government! Thats a no brainer.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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guru267 wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.
Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.
Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him! It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead. Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects. Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014... Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best. I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening. Of course he will not be president forever. Why are Islamists taking arms from USA? This disconnect I cannot fathom.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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guru267 wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.
Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.
Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him! It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead. Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects. Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014... Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best. I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening. Why mention bin Laden start with our own. ..Gaddafi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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enyands wrote:guru267 wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.
Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.
Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him! It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead. Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects. Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014... Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best. I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening. Why mention bin Laden start with our own. ..Gaddafi Goodness me! If a child next door is in distress or suffering abuse, when you act to help them do you do so in order that they kowtow to you thereafter  In a civilised society, responsible citizens in society must stand up to the abusers and call for justice for the weak. This goes for Syria just as it does for South Sudan. Whatever happens after the abusive subsides is for the people to decide. Look at what happened in Egypt, at one point the Islamic Brotherhood took over. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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 Sometimes the things this superpower does .......... this one has no defense no matter how one tries to spin it. Why paint your F/A-18 Hornets to look like your adversary's Sukhoi Su-35? Are you up to some mischief in Syria? Do you want Alphdoti to regale us with more false flag stories........Some of us saw through Americas supposed veil of virginity and found whoredoms. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Sometimes the things this superpower does .......... this one has no defense no matter how one tries to spin it. Why paint your F/A-18 Hornets to look like your adversary's Sukhoi Su-35? Are you up to some mischief in Syria? Do you want Alphdoti to regale us with more false flag stories........Some of us saw through Americas supposed veil of virginity and found whoredoms. @burglar, I've not studied this subject of "false flag" i.e. painting your get away car to look like your that of your enemy 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Sometimes the things this superpower does .......... this one has no defense no matter how one tries to spin it. Why paint your F/A-18 Hornets to look like your adversary's Sukhoi Su-35? Are you up to some mischief in Syria? Do you want Alphdoti to regale us with more false flag stories........Some of us saw through Americas supposed veil of virginity and found whoredoms. Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game. 1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter (simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and unidentified aircrafts), used for training purposes. 2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE
Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed).
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Intelligentsia wrote:Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game. 1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter (simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and unidentified aircrafts), used for training purposes. 2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE
Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed). Oh, Intelligentsia, who needs to repaint planes for "training"? USAF? The greatest airforce in the world? These are not WW2 planes. They have all sorts of cutting edge electronics to identify friend and foe (IFF systems) which enables the super clever pilots to fight at night, in bad weather and even . . . . in zero visibility. Surely. trying to explain this away is comical. Remember the vial of white powder brandished in the UN Assembly that could be and was to be launched in 45 minutes ........
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game. 1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter (simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and unidentified aircrafts), used for training purposes. 2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE
Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed). Oh, Intelligentsia, who needs to repaint planes for "training"? USAF? The greatest airforce in the world? These are not WW2 planes. They have all sorts of cutting edge electronics to identify friend and foe (IFF systems) which enables the super clever pilots to fight at night, in bad weather and even . . . . in zero visibility. Surely. trying to explain this away is comical. Remember the vial of white powder brandished in the UN Assembly that could be and was to be launched in 45 minutes ........ Doesnt that same argument nip your original assertion - that merely painting your fighters in somebody else's colours can be used as cover - in the age of today's technology! Can that fool any of the powers out there! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Ngalaka wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game. 1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter (simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and unidentified aircrafts), used for training purposes. 2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE
Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed). Oh, Intelligentsia, who needs to repaint planes for "training"? USAF? The greatest airforce in the world? These are not WW2 planes. They have all sorts of cutting edge electronics to identify friend and foe (IFF systems) which enables the super clever pilots to fight at night, in bad weather and even . . . . in zero visibility. Surely. trying to explain this away is comical. Remember the vial of white powder brandished in the UN Assembly that could be and was to be launched in 45 minutes ........ Doesnt that same argument nip your original assertion - that merely painting your fighters in somebody else's colours can be used as cover - in the age of today's technology! Can that fool any of the powers out there! Are you talking to me? Surely your comment is meant for Intelligence. Anyway, I intimated when dragging in Alphdoti that these newly painted Hornets are meant to be seen at the appropriate time and place. Maybe so that the appropriate blame can be put on the real owners of planes that had such a colour (after all such coloured planes "seen" flying overhead - by "distressed women and children" perhaps) and by the time world citizens realize the truth of the planes, another Shock and Awe has been achieved and there is pretty much nothing more to be done. Just like the vial.
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