wazua Wed, Jul 23, 2025
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

52 Pages«<1415161718>»
IEBC showdown today!!!!!!!!
Angelica _ann
#301 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:56:31 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,921
hardwood wrote:
thuks wrote:
4 bvr kits stolen by alkebab, they want to help someone to 'rig' August vote


@mucheru was right that alshetanis could tamper with an electronic election. We need manual backup PRONTO.

Organized...... No exchange and no makueni!!!!! Trying to justify Sad Sad Sad
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
hardwood
#302 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2017 8:36:05 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Meanwhile, a standoff between baba and IEBC. Who will blink first?

masukuma
#303 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:55:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,822
Location: Nairobi
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
FRM2011
#304 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:42:58 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
Hi @masukush, kindly shed a light on the following issues.

1. The IEBC tender cancellation and direct procurement. Does it solve the deadline problems ? And are we likely to face more court cases ?

2. NASA parallel tallying. Is it really such a big issue ? What's the legal position. Am neck deep in this one.

3. Party primaries. All parties want do away with membership lists and use IEBC voter register instead. Your take ?
masukuma
#305 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:21:05 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,822
Location: Nairobi
FRM2011 wrote:
Hi @masukush, kindly shed a light on the following issues.

1. The IEBC tender cancellation and direct procurement. Does it solve the deadline problems ? And are we likely to face more court cases ?

2. NASA parallel tallying. Is it really such a big issue ? What's the legal position. Am neck deep in this one.

3. Party primaries. All parties want do away with membership lists and use IEBC voter register instead. Your take ?

1) Saffran has undertaken to deliver "on time". Some aspects of the system will be late for example the candidate nomination and registration aspect of the system. The voter verification aspect and results transmission are the key components. I am waiting to see how the cookie crumbles on this one. Court cases? We are a litigious nation the direct procurement is likely to be challenged. But I suspect the courts will expedite cases. Some cases are frivolous and counter productive kama ile ya audit of the register.
2) I thought there was a law that stopped people from announcing results that the IEBC has not declared. I tried looking for That law juzi and couldn't find it. That is why the media code of conduct stopped media houses in 2013 from announcing from the polling station. However for your own record purposes - sioni shida.
3) each party has a political membership register that is kept at the office registrar of political parties. That is their register (which is a subset of the voters register)
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
muganda
#306 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 5:40:07 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,906
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.

Lolest!
#307 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 5:46:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


No elections! We recall Parliament to change the constitution to allow for a caretaker govt?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Obi 1 Kanobi
#308 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 5:55:43 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/23/2008
Posts: 3,017
Lolest! wrote:
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


No elections! We recall Parliament to change the constitution to allow for a caretaker govt?


Seems IEBC and gava can't catch a break, casual decision making on crucial matters now biting them in the backside.

Was really hoping to get through with this campaign nonsense, get the elections done on time so we can move to other things, everything seems to be on hold as we see this election through.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
thuks
#309 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 5:55:54 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


The new cockerel in town
I care!
Rahatupu
#310 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 5:58:32 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 1,982
Location: matano manne
thuks wrote:
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


The new cockerel in town


What's the way out of this quagmire?

Scenarios........ presidential vote is delayed as others start earlier....legal implications? 
2. Direct procurement sabotage so tendering is overtaken by election date....constitutional crisis ensues and nusu mkate pap.

Way out for Chebukati? Seems he's conered together with the entire election. Is there a way out?
harrydre
#311 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:08:53 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
In their judgement, the judges faulted IEBC for failing to consult all candidates in the August poll before awarding the Sh2.5-billion tender to Al Ghurair.

is that the law of the land? Do we really expect the candidates to agree? Mbona others are credible na hii presidential is not? is Al Ghurair the real problem here? IEBC should repeal this decision, move to Court of Appeal.
i.am.back!!!!
Angelica _ann
#312 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:15:57 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,921
harrydre wrote:
In their judgement, the judges faulted IEBC for failing to consult all candidates in the August poll before awarding the Sh2.5-billion tender to Al Ghurair.

is that the law of the land? Do we really expect the candidates to agree? Mbona others are credible na hii presidential is not? is Al Ghurair the real problem here? IEBC should repeal this decision, move to Court of Appeal.


I dont support but there something stupid in the constitution about public participation
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
maka
#313 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:17:09 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Rahatupu wrote:
thuks wrote:
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


The new cockerel in town


What's the way out of this quagmire?

Scenarios........ presidential vote is delayed as others start earlier....legal implications? 
2. Direct procurement sabotage so tendering is overtaken by election date....constitutional crisis ensues and nusu mkate pap.

Way out for Chebukati? Seems he's conered together with the entire election. Is there a way out?


Yes...
possunt quia posse videntur
kaka2za
#314 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:23:34 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,057
Location: Gwitu
maka wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
thuks wrote:
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


The new cockerel in town


What's the way out of this quagmire?

Scenarios........ presidential vote is delayed as others start earlier....legal implications? 
2. Direct procurement sabotage so tendering is overtaken by election date....constitutional crisis ensues and nusu mkate pap.

Way out for Chebukati? Seems he's conered together with the entire election. Is there a way out?


Yes...


If IEBC appeal the case will drag past 8th August.

By the way,suppose the IEBC throw in the towel and resign en masse?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Rahatupu
#315 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:27:54 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 1,982
Location: matano manne
kaka2za wrote:
maka wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
thuks wrote:
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


The new cockerel in town


What's the way out of this quagmire?

Scenarios........ presidential vote is delayed as others start earlier....legal implications? 
2. Direct procurement sabotage so tendering is overtaken by election date....constitutional crisis ensues and nusu mkate pap.

Way out for Chebukati? Seems he's conered together with the entire election. Is there a way out?


Yes...


Suppose the IEBC throw in the towel and resign en masse?


Someone just drew a nasty card.....teren teren.... Afrocinema. Anyone?
Jump-steady
#316 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:39:52 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 12/1/2008
Posts: 1,098
kaka2za wrote:
maka wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
thuks wrote:
muganda wrote:
True debacle indeed!

Quote:
COURT halts printing of presidential ballot papers citing lack of public participation. IEBC ordered to advertise new tender.


The new cockerel in town


What's the way out of this quagmire?

Scenarios........ presidential vote is delayed as others start earlier....legal implications? 
2. Direct procurement sabotage so tendering is overtaken by election date....constitutional crisis ensues and nusu mkate pap.

Way out for Chebukati? Seems he's conered together with the entire election. Is there a way out?


Yes...


If IEBC appeal the case will drag past 8th August.

By the way,suppose the IEBC throw in the towel and resign en masse?


Public participation is just nonsense by the court to continue causing confusion around this elections. How will the public participate in the remaining four weeks. How do you measure public participation? Isn't this not enough for another clown to move to court once again citing the same issue? This is tiring!Eh?
Ngalaka
#317 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 6:59:13 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 10/29/2008
Posts: 1,566
The effect of this judgement seems far reaching but IEBC can render it academic -
move through the motions of public participation then appoint by direct procurement, latest July 16th the same company - al Gurair to finish the job.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
hardwood
#318 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 7:02:41 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Taxpayers to pay the company Ksh 5B for cancelling the contract. Baba should be made to foot this bill coz it is as a result of his odjinga.

Also if the company is competent to print all the other ballots for MCA mpaka governor what is so special about presidential ballots? It's either the whole tender was flawed or not. You can't cancel printing of some ballots and not others. Baba has become a big nuisance to the country. The judges also appear unlearned and lacking in wisdom and even common sense.
Ngalaka
#319 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 7:12:00 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 10/29/2008
Posts: 1,566
At the Court of appeal IEBC is likely to have their way given the circumstances we find ourselves in as a Country not least the limited time there is to 882017.
Separately, I understand the contract between IEBC and Al Ghurair is one that covers all ballots for all elective posts.
For IEBC to now approach them to change some aspects of the contract at this stage when part of the printing is underway is problematic.

The Company could easily demand that the contract is honoured wholly at least in terms of payment, or discontinued wholly.
Once again the Kenyan taxpayer losing money unnecessarily.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Bigchick
#320 Posted : Friday, July 07, 2017 7:14:57 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/8/2013
Posts: 4,068
Location: At Large.
Patience,Patience,Patience.
It will end well.I trust there is a way out.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
52 Pages«<1415161718>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2025 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.