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Here is the government’s full statement on Miguna Miguna’s Citizenship: Political activist Joshua Miguna Miguna was last night deported back to Canada based on the provisions of section 33(1) and 43(1) of the Kenya Citizenship and Immigration Act, 2011. Miguna fled Kenya in 1988 using travel documents provided by a foreign country. Thereafter he acquired Canadian citizenship and has remained a Canadian citizen since then. Miguna acquired Kenyan passport in 2009 at a time when it was illegal for a Kenyan to hold dual-citizenship without having denounced the foreign citizenship. Prior to this, Miguna had applied for Kenyan Passport in 1987 to enable him travel to Cuba for a students’ conference. His application for passport was rejected in a letter dated 12th September 1987 which gave Miguna reasons for the rejection. At the time Miguna was a students’ leader at the University of Nairobi before he was expelled from the University. Under the repealed Constitution, Kenyan citizens were allowed only one nationality. Kenyan citizens who acquired other nationalities automatically lost their Kenyan citizenship. When the new Constitution came into force, Kenyans who had lost their citizenship as a result of acquiring other nationalities were required to officially apply to regain their Kenyan citizenship. Miguna never did this and therefore continued being a Canadian citizen. In 2009, Miguna made an application for Kenyan passport at Kisumu Passport Control. Without following the requisite legal process, then Minister for Immigration, the late Otieno Kajwang’ ordered that Miguna be issued with a Kenyan passport. The late Minister’s orders that Miguna be issued with a Kenyan passport without following the proper legal procedure as prescribed by law was illegal and had no backing in law. At the time Miguna was unlawfully issued with Kenyan Passport he was working as an advisor to then then Prime Minister Raila Odinga. Prior to being illegally issued with a Kenyan passport, Miguna had been travelling using Canadian Passport No. MJ 393885 and WK 944502. Miguna renewed his Canadian passport in June 2017 just a few weeks to the general elections. When Miguna acquired Kenyan passport in March 2009, he deliberately failed to disclose the fact that he had acquired citizenship of another country and therefore the Kenyan passport he acquired then was and still remains illegal. Mwenda Njoka Spokesman, Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government for Director of Immigration Services, 7th February 2018. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state.
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Angelica _ann wrote:Here is the government’s full statement on Miguna Miguna’s Citizenship:
Political activist Joshua Miguna Miguna was last night deported back to Canada based on the provisions of section 33(1) and 43(1) of the Kenya Citizenship and Immigration Act, 2011.
Miguna fled Kenya in 1988 using travel documents provided by a foreign country. Thereafter he acquired Canadian citizenship and has remained a Canadian citizen since then.
Miguna acquired Kenyan passport in 2009 at a time when it was illegal for a Kenyan to hold dual-citizenship without having denounced the foreign citizenship.
Prior to this, Miguna had applied for Kenyan Passport in 1987 to enable him travel to Cuba for a students’ conference.
His application for passport was rejected in a letter dated 12th September 1987 which gave Miguna reasons for the rejection. At the time Miguna was a students’ leader at the University of Nairobi before he was expelled from the University.
Under the repealed Constitution, Kenyan citizens were allowed only one nationality. Kenyan citizens who acquired other nationalities automatically lost their Kenyan citizenship.
When the new Constitution came into force, Kenyans who had lost their citizenship as a result of acquiring other nationalities were required to officially apply to regain their Kenyan citizenship.
Miguna never did this and therefore continued being a Canadian citizen.
In 2009, Miguna made an application for Kenyan passport at Kisumu Passport Control. Without following the requisite legal process, then Minister for Immigration, the late Otieno Kajwang’ ordered that Miguna be issued with a Kenyan passport.
The late Minister’s orders that Miguna be issued with a Kenyan passport without following the proper legal procedure as prescribed by law was illegal and had no backing in law.
At the time Miguna was unlawfully issued with Kenyan Passport he was working as an advisor to then then Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
Prior to being illegally issued with a Kenyan passport, Miguna had been travelling using Canadian Passport No. MJ 393885 and WK 944502. Miguna renewed his Canadian passport in June 2017 just a few weeks to the general elections.
When Miguna acquired Kenyan passport in March 2009, he deliberately failed to disclose the fact that he had acquired citizenship of another country and therefore the Kenyan passport he acquired then was and still remains illegal.
Mwenda Njoka
Spokesman,
Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government for Director of Immigration Services,
7th February 2018. Makes alot of sense. Miguna is kaput. Finished. Osichese na sirkal.
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I love the way the ministry statement uses the words "illegally", "unlawfully" etc without any shame. They do realise that by they themselves not following the law in such matters, they are committing an "illegality"? I can see why they would like to twist and turn around this issue. Sorry, things don't work that way. It was not Otieno Kajwang who issued Miguna with a passport. It was the gov't of Kenya. Unless, they are saying they don't recognize the gov't of Mwai Kibaki. Which is strange considering they are complaining Raila doesn't recognise theirs. Even for the worst criminals like the Arturs, the law was followed. To the letter. Ever since this gov't has refused to follow court orders, I hear even KQ has refused to follow court orders. It is a slippery slope my friends. When court orders are taken kama karatasi ya kufungia nyama. Soon even your neighbour will refuse to follow them. It is not a matter to be taken lightly. I am 100% sure that the very same gymnastics shall be used on someone in this very gov't very soon. 100% sure. Ask that cop katitu who thought by shooting people because he was told you by some upper ups he shall go to heaven. He was found guilty today for killing people. All those people who use to kiss ass in red ties, red shirts and cockerel lapels ended up nowhere. If the gov't doesn't follow it's own laws, why in God's name would I follow them? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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alma1 wrote:I love the way the ministry statement uses the words "illegally", "unlawfully" etc without any shame.
They do realise that by they themselves not following the law in such matters, they are committing an "illegality"?
I can see why they would like to twist and turn around this issue. Sorry, things don't work that way.
It was not Otieno Kajwang who issued Miguna with a passport. It was the gov't of Kenya. Unless, they are saying they don't recognize the gov't of Mwai Kibaki. Which is strange considering they are complaining Raila doesn't recognise theirs.
Even for the worst criminals like the Arturs, the law was followed. To the letter.
Ever since this gov't has refused to follow court orders, I hear even KQ has refused to follow court orders. It is a slippery slope my friends.
When court orders are taken kama karatasi ya kufungia nyama. Soon even your neighbour will refuse to follow them. It is not a matter to be taken lightly.
I am 100% sure that the very same gymnastics shall be used on someone in this very gov't very soon. 100% sure. Ask that cop katitu who thought by shooting people because he was told you by some upper ups he shall go to heaven. He was found guilty today for killing people.
All those people who use to kiss ass in red ties, red shirts and cockerel lapels ended up nowhere.
If the gov't doesn't follow it's own laws, why in God's name would I follow them? Alma you should be using your brain sometimes. The govt has a right to cancel any passport, title deed, permit, license etc if they discover that it was issued fraudulently. Kajwang was notorious for hawking Kenyan passports so you can imagine that baba's adviser miguna would have gotten his illegal passport at lightning speed. This kajwang should be tried posthumously for all the sins he committed against kenya. That is why baba and his lieutenants should never get into power ever again because they are very corrupt thugs.
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alma1 wrote:I love the way the ministry statement uses the words "illegally", "unlawfully" etc without any shame.
They do realise that by they themselves not following the law in such matters, they are committing an "illegality"?
I can see why they would like to twist and turn around this issue. Sorry, things don't work that way.
It was not Otieno Kajwang who issued Miguna with a passport. It was the gov't of Kenya. Unless, they are saying they don't recognize the gov't of Mwai Kibaki. Which is strange considering they are complaining Raila doesn't recognise theirs.
Even for the worst criminals like the Arturs, the law was followed. To the letter.
Ever since this gov't has refused to follow court orders, I hear even KQ has refused to follow court orders. It is a slippery slope my friends.
When court orders are taken kama karatasi ya kufungia nyama. Soon even your neighbour will refuse to follow them. It is not a matter to be taken lightly.
I am 100% sure that the very same gymnastics shall be used on someone in this very gov't very soon. 100% sure. Ask that cop katitu who thought by shooting people because he was told you by some upper ups he shall go to heaven. He was found guilty today for killing people.
All those people who use to kiss ass in red ties, red shirts and cockerel lapels ended up nowhere.
If the gov't doesn't follow it's own laws, why in God's name would I follow them? The Govt of Kenya has a right to revoke your passport if you obtained it illegally In 2011 the issuing of visas/permits was questioned here in wazua. So its not foreign or out of this world that Miguna's passport was obtained fraudulently. Kaigangio #23 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:17:07 PM wrote:@ macreggae,
you see my beef with the pig kajwang is illegaly and corruptly bringing in immigrants into the country to do odd jobs that kenyans can do and giving a lame excuse (lying) to justify his actions...
secondly on plant drivers, like some wazuas have said you will never go to any school to be taught how to operate a plant you have to learn it on job, but the basic requirement is to have an appropriate licence to drive it...
actually there is no shortage of these plant operators...it is the plants themselves that are very few. http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...&m=170883#post170883"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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The executive arm of gov't cannot declare anything criminal. That's the work of the Judiciary. It has to follow the laws on illegality or otherwise suggested by the legislative arm. That is why the police write a charge sheet then you are taken to court. Then the court decides that a crime was committed. Not hardwood and murchr pronouncements on social media. That is why Waiguru became a governor even after all the noise on wazua. She was never charged for any crime. Kapish? Please advise on which court case Miguna's passport was ever declared illegal. Please take your time. As you think about that, please give us details to us where a Minister of the Gov't of Mwai Kibaki was arrested or charged for giving out false papers. Please note wazua gossip is not counted in serious matters of illegality or otherwise. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I'll tell you once again. Someone is going to go through the very same gymnastics and it won't be whom you think. The law must be followed by all and sundry. Otherwise you leave a legacy of a banana republic. Ask former President Moi. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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alma1 wrote:The executive arm of gov't cannot declare anything illegal. That's the work of the Judiciary.
That is why the police writes a charge sheet then you are taken to court. Then the court decides that a crime was commited. Not hardwood and murchr pronouncements on social media. That is why Waiguru became a governor even after all the noise on wazua. She was never charged for any crime. Kapish?
Please advise on which court case Miguna's passport was ever declared illegal. Please take your time.
As you think about that, please details to us where a Minister of the Gov't of Mwai Kibaki was arrested or charged for giving out false papers.
Please note wazua gossip is not counted in serious matters of illegality or otherwise.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. I'll tell you once again. Someone is going to go through the very same gymnastics and it won't be whom you think.
The law must be followed by all and sundry. Otherwise you leave a legacy of a banana republic. Ask former President Moi. The laws of Kenya declare what is legal and not. Its the work of the Judiciary to interpret this if you do not understand, and its the work of the executive to enforce the law. People go to court to object to enforcement of the law. Let me chew it for you, just incase the UON discovered that you obtained their degree fraudulently they can revoke it.....ask Mithika Linturi.... Kethi Kilonzo vs IEBC? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:The executive arm of gov't cannot declare anything illegal. That's the work of the Judiciary.
That is why the police writes a charge sheet then you are taken to court. Then the court decides that a crime was commited. Not hardwood and murchr pronouncements on social media. That is why Waiguru became a governor even after all the noise on wazua. She was never charged for any crime. Kapish?
Please advise on which court case Miguna's passport was ever declared illegal. Please take your time.
As you think about that, please details to us where a Minister of the Gov't of Mwai Kibaki was arrested or charged for giving out false papers.
Please note wazua gossip is not counted in serious matters of illegality or otherwise.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. I'll tell you once again. Someone is going to go through the very same gymnastics and it won't be whom you think.
The law must be followed by all and sundry. Otherwise you leave a legacy of a banana republic. Ask former President Moi. The laws of Kenya declare what is legal and not. Its the work of the Judiciary to interpret this if you do not understand, and its the work of the executive to enforce the law. Don't tie yourself up in knots. The laws of Kenya are created by the legislative arm. You do know the meaning of legislature. Do not even for a minute bring up the issue of certificates prochuad from a university. You get that certificate based on the laws and bylaws of that university. And those are interpreted by the senate council of the university. Not by the lecturer who gave me a D- In Kenya you are judged based on the laws that are based on the constitution. Supreme amongst them is that no one is above the law. Especially the law enforcers. Note: not interpreters on Twirra or wazua. But the goddamned courts. I'll leave this stories as I have a very long 2 weeks ahead in my life. Unless hardwood brings a contigent of armed cops to my house to state that I'm not even human. People go to court to get their rights. They expect everyone to play under the same rules. When they find out that the same rules don't apply to anyone, start typing "banana republic". What I'll say is this as my final output on this topic. Someone shall also suffer the same fates as what is going on. We have seen it before and we know the ending to the story. It may not be to your liking. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Any Wazuan in Toronto, has he arrived?
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:The executive arm of gov't cannot declare anything illegal. That's the work of the Judiciary.
That is why the police writes a charge sheet then you are taken to court. Then the court decides that a crime was commited. Not hardwood and murchr pronouncements on social media. That is why Waiguru became a governor even after all the noise on wazua. She was never charged for any crime. Kapish?
Please advise on which court case Miguna's passport was ever declared illegal. Please take your time.
As you think about that, please details to us where a Minister of the Gov't of Mwai Kibaki was arrested or charged for giving out false papers.
Please note wazua gossip is not counted in serious matters of illegality or otherwise.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. I'll tell you once again. Someone is going to go through the very same gymnastics and it won't be whom you think.
The law must be followed by all and sundry. Otherwise you leave a legacy of a banana republic. Ask former President Moi. The laws of Kenya declare what is legal and not. Its the work of the Judiciary to interpret this if you do not understand, and its the work of the executive to enforce the law. Don't tie yourself up in knots. The laws of Kenya are created by the legislative arm. You do know the meaning of legislature. Do not even for a minute bring up the issue of certificates prochuad from a university. You get that certificate based on the laws and bylaws of that university. And those are interpreted by the senate council of the university. Not by the lecturer who gave me a D- In Kenya you are judged based on the laws that are based on the constitution. Supreme amongst them is that no one is above the law. Especially the law enforcers. Note: not interpreters on Twirra or wazua. But the goddamned courts. I'll leave this stories as I have a very long 2 weeks ahead in my life. Unless hardwood brings a contigent of armed cops to my house to state that I'm not even human. People go to court to get their rights. They expect everyone to play under the same rules. When they find out that the same rules don't apply to anyone, start typing "banana republic". What I'll say is this as my final output on this topic. Someone shall also suffer the same fates as what is going on. We have seen it before and we know the ending to the story. It may not be to your liking. So after typing all that what did you say? Govt is enforcing the law. Miguna should contest that law in court. @Kusadikika, I just hope there will be someone to give him socks, shoes and a coat once he gets to Toronto. Its biting cold over there. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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hardwood wrote:Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state. How correct is this image:
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state. How correct is this image: Thanks @Alph for nailing it. Just like all Kenyans of majority age are have a right to vote,they are obligated to register as voters.
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state. How correct is this image: that's the law... if someone has no interest in your "precious" citizenship and gave it up a long time ago - you cannot 'FORCE' him/her to be your citizen just because you passed a law. What if his/he current citizenship does not allow him/her to be a dual citizen? what if he/she can lose his/her newly found citizenship based on being a citizen of another country? you must accord people the courtesy to apply for themselves if they are interested. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Swali nyeti ni hili: How was a Canadian citizen cleared by IEBC to run for Governor of Kenya's capital city??? Tuwache kudanganyana. I'm starting to believe the story that the people's president has appointed Miguna the Canadian ambassador with immediate effect. BBI will solve it :)
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alma1 wrote:masukuma wrote:it could be argued that they are following section 1 and 2 of the constitution!! you know that section that you can misquote all you want Quote:(1) All sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with this Constitution.
(2) The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives.
so Matiangi and Boinett herein known as 'People' or 'The People' have exercised ' sovereign power' and kicked Miguna squared out of the country The constitution on the issue of citizenship only has 1 line. It is very clear. You cannot lose your citizenship for whatever reason. It is one of the shortest lines in the constitution and it has no ifs and buts about it. People quoting laws that were made by the mkoloni gov't would do well to read that part. As to the issue of Miguna renouncing his citizenship this is one area where only Jubilee people who have never found a way out of Nairobi can believe. You are not expected to renounce your citizenship in Canada. In fact it has one of the most liberal laws worldwide dual citizenship. Second and most important. Even the US does not and will never tell any country that anyone has renounced their citizenship. When someone can wake in the morning and say, you are not a citizen, we are heading for very dangerous times ahead. ala... don't you know? you can disregard everything after Section 1 of the constitution if you decide to exercise ' sovereign power' DIRECTLY!! that "exercise sovereign power DIRECTLY" means you can make shit up as you go! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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tunaenda cana an..sorry i mean tunaenda cana da! sorry for the typo All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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"NIGHT FLYER" MIGONE MIGONE!!!!!! He can now write another book!!!!
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