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limanika
#151 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:42:20 PM
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It appears the longer we stay in Somalia and improve our strategies, the more Shabbab are forced to look for new strategies to counter the same. This means the longer we stay, the stronger they become or seek to become. And it therefore follows, when we eventually leave, if we ever do, these guys will be too strong for their own govt. If we've been there 5 years and no end in sight, is it foolish to ask if there is any other strategy that could be employed. Personally am beginning to think the only thing that could work is subdivision into 3 or 4 autonomous states. Somalis are merchants from time immemorial and it ain't going to be easy to westernize them
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hardwood
#152 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:20:25 PM
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hardwood
#153 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:31:21 PM
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C&P

General Mwathathe said the explosion at El-Adde
happened at the centre of the KDF camp
where the officers in charge were. The
command centre was also at the point of
the explosion.
The force of the explosion was three
times more than the August 7, 1998
terrorist bombing in Nairobi, he said. He
added that identifying the bodies would
require DNA analysis and was likely to
take long.
Gen Mwathethe said a KDF aircraft that
was headed to Kismayu was diverted to
El-Adde on the first day to confirm the
attack but it encountered anti-aircraft
gunfire and the officers on board could
not attempt any rescue.
The first reinforcement reached the area
on the third day after the attack. He said
El-Adde is now under the control of the
KDF.
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Jump-steady
#154 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:47:36 PM
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hardwood wrote:
www.mobile.nation.co.ke/news/-/1950946/3042930/-/format/xhtml/-/du2by9z/-/index.html

C&P

General Mwathathe said the explosion at El-Adde
happened at the centre of the KDF camp
where the officers in charge were. The
command centre was also at the point of
the explosion.
The force of the explosion was three
times more than the August 7, 1998
terrorist bombing in Nairobi, he said. He
added that identifying the bodies would
require DNA analysis and was likely to
take long.
Gen Mwathethe said a KDF aircraft that
was headed to Kismayu was diverted to
El-Adde on the first day to confirm the
attack but it encountered anti-aircraft
gunfire and the officers on board could
not attempt any rescue.
The first reinforcement reached the area
on the third day after the attack. He said
El-Adde is now under the control of the
KDF.


Pray Pray Pray

Hii maneno iko ngumu saana!Sad
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keraka
#155 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 6:11:00 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Alba wrote:
If these statements from the Standard are true then KDF should just get the heck out of Somalia

Quote:
Experts now say no army on earth could have resisted the devastating attack meted out on Kenyan troops by suicide bombers using high-calibre explosives.


Quote:
Meanwhile, military headquarters yesterday appeared to confirm that the KDF camp was on a high alert of the impending attack following intelligence reports, but the force that met the Kenyan soldiers was described as ‘unstoppable’
.

They are basically saying KDF are not equipped to stop such attacks


If you want to know that this is true.look for the online video posted by Alshabab whenn they overran the Ugandan base.Its so difficult for a conventional army to defend itself against heavily armed lunatics who want to become martyrs.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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livie
#156 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 6:20:23 PM
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Maybe it's time to re-think the whole thing, fighting conventionally with alshabab isn't working.

We should consider use of unconventional methods and weapons, take to them their own game.

Time to take off the kid gloves...
If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
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hardwood
#157 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 6:57:11 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
keraka wrote:
Alba wrote:
If these statements from the Standard are true then KDF should just get the heck out of Somalia

Quote:
Experts now say no army on earth could have resisted the devastating attack meted out on Kenyan troops by suicide bombers using high-calibre explosives.


Quote:
Meanwhile, military headquarters yesterday appeared to confirm that the KDF camp was on a high alert of the impending attack following intelligence reports, but the force that met the Kenyan soldiers was described as ‘unstoppable’
.

They are basically saying KDF are not equipped to stop such attacks


If you want to know that this is true.look for the online video posted by Alshabab whenn they overran the Ugandan base.Its so difficult for a conventional army to defend itself against heavily armed lunatics who want to become martyrs.


I have only seen the video on the failed attack on the army base in lamu. And judging from the firefight then, things must have been tough in el adde.
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keraka
#158 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:52:26 PM
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Joined: 2/24/2010
Posts: 637
Location: Nairobi
hardwood wrote:
keraka wrote:
Alba wrote:
If these statements from the Standard are true then KDF should just get the heck out of Somalia

Quote:
Experts now say no army on earth could have resisted the devastating attack meted out on Kenyan troops by suicide bombers using high-calibre explosives.


Quote:
Meanwhile, military headquarters yesterday appeared to confirm that the KDF camp was on a high alert of the impending attack following intelligence reports, but the force that met the Kenyan soldiers was described as ‘unstoppable’
.

They are basically saying KDF are not equipped to stop such attacks


If you want to know that this is true.look for the online video posted by Alshabab whenn they overran the Ugandan base.Its so difficult for a conventional army to defend itself against heavily armed lunatics who want to become martyrs.


I have only seen the video on the failed attack on the army base in lamu. And judging from the firefight then, things must have been tough in el adde.


Check the Somalia newsroom website.Those idiots are vicious and unless supported by air power i dont think any conventional army will defeat them given the fact they are proud of death.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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harrydre
#159 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:16:12 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
hardwood wrote:
www.mobile.nation.co.ke/news/-/1950946/3042930/-/format/xhtml/-/du2by9z/-/index.html

C&P

General Mwathathe said the explosion at El-Adde
happened at the centre of the KDF camp
where the officers in charge were. The
command centre was also at the point of
the explosion.
The force of the explosion was three
times more than the August 7, 1998
terrorist bombing in Nairobi, he said. He
added that identifying the bodies would
require DNA analysis and was likely to
take long.
Gen Mwathethe said a KDF aircraft that
was headed to Kismayu was diverted to
El-Adde on the first day to confirm the
attack but it encountered anti-aircraft
gunfire and the officers on board could
not attempt any rescue.
The first reinforcement reached the area
on the third day after the attack. He said
El-Adde is now under the control of the
KDF.


Pray Pray Pray

Hii maneno iko ngumu saana!Sad


it's very hard to fight suicide bombers however strong an army can be. You have to gather intelligence prior to the attack and neutralize them before the D-Day.
i.am.back!!!!
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limanika
#160 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:28:41 PM
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Posts: 2,032
livie wrote:
Maybe it's time to re-think the whole thing, fighting conventionally with alshabab isn't working.

We should consider use of unconventional methods and weapons, take to them their own game.

Time to take off the kid gloves...

Even if we manage to beat them, they will just keep low waiting for us to exit. Then they return to 'normal' life. It's either we stay there forever or we develop an exit strategy.
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