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Tokyo
#151 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:08:49 PM
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Wambora should know he has a right to be impeached
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streetwise
#152 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:27:43 PM
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Huyu Wabora alifanya nini..to be hated that much by all people ????? So so strange !!!!
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Muheani
#153 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:51:44 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Huyu Wabora alifanya nini..to be hated that much by all people ????? So so strange !!!!
Lesson Learnt...Dont you go getting yourself a name "Wambora". Utapata Kombora.
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murchr
#154 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:29:31 AM
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After listening to Wambora on Cheche i have reason to believe there's more than meets the eye here. I have a few questions, can Senate convict anyone of an offense? Does the senate have any capabilities of finding out that indeed the seeds were procured by the county govt were "fake"?. This is what the constitution says
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(A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds–– a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law; (c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or (d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.
1. What constitutes a "gross violation", "a crime" and "a gross misconduct"? 2. Who declares/validates that they (governors) have violated the laws above? 3. Didn't the senators jump the gun if they acted on allegations rather than proven facts?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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mkenyan
#155 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:34:34 AM
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murchr wrote:
After listening to Wambora on Cheche i have reason to believe there's more than meets the eye here. I have a few questions, can Senate convict anyone of an offense? Does the senate have any capabilities of finding out that indeed the seeds were procured by the county govt were "fake"?. This is what the constitution says
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(A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds–– a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law; (c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or (d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.
1. What constitutes a "gross violation", "a crime" and "a gross misconduct"? 2. Who declares/validates that they (governors) have violated the laws above? 3. Didn't the senators jump the gun if they acted on allegations rather than proven facts?
gross violation can be just about anything. the constitution allows for the mcas and the senate to remove a governor from office. thus in reality it's a political process in this instance. not a judicial one where the burden of proof would be higher.
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murchr
#156 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 2:17:38 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:
After listening to Wambora on Cheche i have reason to believe there's more than meets the eye here. I have a few questions, can Senate convict anyone of an offense? Does the senate have any capabilities of finding out that indeed the seeds were procured by the county govt were "fake"?. This is what the constitution says
Quote:
(A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds–– a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law; (c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or (d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.
1. What constitutes a "gross violation", "a crime" and "a gross misconduct"? 2. Who declares/validates that they (governors) have violated the laws above? 3. Didn't the senators jump the gun if they acted on allegations rather than proven facts?
gross violation can be just about anything. the constitution allows for the mcas and the senate to remove a governor from office. thus in reality it's a political process in this instance. not a judicial one where the burden of proof would be higher.
I read the constitution and its says that parliament shall create a "process" which i think is the mca impeachment and then the senate bla bla. But either way parliament did not give the mcas or senate powers to prosecute one can only be found guilty in a court process.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Angelica _ann
#157 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:06:09 PM
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Muheani wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Huyu Wabora alifanya nini..to be hated that much by all people ????? So so strange !!!!
Lesson Learnt...Dont you go getting yourself a name "Wambora". Utapata Kombora.
Kuweka former clande Deputy who is currently somebody else's clande.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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McReggae
#158 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 12:47:18 PM
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Can't he just let go? HIGH COURT rules that embattled Embu Governor Martin Wambora will remain in office until a case filed by some county residents is determined
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Angelica _ann
#159 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 12:48:32 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Can't he just let go? HIGH COURT rules that embattled Embu Governor Martin Wambora will remain in office until a case filed by some county residents is determined
Absurd!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Ngong
#160 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 12:59:52 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Can't he just let go? HIGH COURT rules that embattled Embu Governor Martin Wambora will remain in office until a case filed by some county residents is determined
No since what follows is jail
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