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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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I can only hope that we'll stop looking at Binyavanga and anyone whose come out of the closet and look at the matter of homosexuality in itself and address the challenges it poses to all of us.
One thing that's apparent is that we have very little information on this matter, and in taking strong moral positions we do ourselves disfavor, and even perpetuate the evils we shun. We shoot and lynch thieves and robbers, yet their numbers increase by the day.
I happen to have been introduced to both sexual orientations at a very early age. And I have 'God' to thank because somehow I have managed to look at the effects of these experiences with a level head, and even heal. But not so for my 'initiators'. I've watched families getting destroyed and people losing their lives because of these matters. I have seen people being pushed to the limits, and even the moral standards that we often subscribe to being pushed aside, or falling apart. This matter is tougher than you can imagine.
It's a historical force, and effect, and the way to go about it is to create a culture and symbolism that's different from what we presently have.
Empathy, dedicated investigation, love and patience are what we need. Not self righteousness.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Kenyan gays finally have a face, more gay people should come out so that Kenyans realise that gay people are not Lilliputians
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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@tycho thank you for sharing, I'm the better for it. I understand and empathise. All's for the Good. PEACE. tycho wrote:I can only hope that we'll stop looking at Binyavanga and anyone whose come out of the closet and look at the matter of homosexuality in itself and address the challenges it poses to all of us.
One thing that's apparent is that we have very little information on this matter, and in taking strong moral positions we do ourselves disfavor, and even perpetuate the evils we shun. We shoot and lynch thieves and robbers, yet their numbers increase by the day.
I happen to have been introduced to both sexual orientations at a very early age. And I have 'God' to thank because somehow I have managed to look at the effects of these experiences with a level head, and even heal. But not so for my 'initiators'. I've watched families getting destroyed and people losing their lives because of these matters. I have seen people being pushed to the limits, and even the moral standards that we often subscribe to being pushed aside, or falling apart. This matter is tougher than you can imagine.
It's a historical force, and effect, and the way to go about it is to create a culture and symbolism that's different from what we presently have.
Empathy, dedicated investigation, love and patience are what we need. Not self righteousness.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:I can only hope that we'll stop looking at Binyavanga and anyone whose come out of the closet and look at the matter of homosexuality in itself and address the challenges it poses to all of us.
One thing that's apparent is that we have very little information on this matter, and in taking strong moral positions we do ourselves disfavor, and even perpetuate the evils we shun. We shoot and lynch thieves and robbers, yet their numbers increase by the day.
I happen to have been introduced to both sexual orientations at a very early age. And I have 'God' to thank because somehow I have managed to look at the effects of these experiences with a level head, and even heal. But not so for my 'initiators'. I've watched families getting destroyed and people losing their lives because of these matters. I have seen people being pushed to the limits, and even the moral standards that we often subscribe to being pushed aside, or falling apart. This matter is tougher than you can imagine.
It's a historical force, and effect, and the way to go about it is to create a culture and symbolism that's different from what we presently have.
Empathy, dedicated investigation, love and patience are what we need. Not self righteousness. Sawa sawa. Sasa ile maneno yetu ingine - when will we start it? For example how can you be against 'self righteousness' yet you are god? Your righteousness is within. Hii ni balaa gani umeanzisha?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/19/2012 Posts: 552
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majimaji wrote:
Kenyan gays finally have a face, more gay people should come out so that Kenyans realise that gay people are not Lilliputians
MK might be the next one we hear of getting out of the closet Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/11/2007 Posts: 694
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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Never ever, ours are real stuff  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I can only hope that we'll stop looking at Binyavanga and anyone whose come out of the closet and look at the matter of homosexuality in itself and address the challenges it poses to all of us.
One thing that's apparent is that we have very little information on this matter, and in taking strong moral positions we do ourselves disfavor, and even perpetuate the evils we shun. We shoot and lynch thieves and robbers, yet their numbers increase by the day.
I happen to have been introduced to both sexual orientations at a very early age. And I have 'God' to thank because somehow I have managed to look at the effects of these experiences with a level head, and even heal. But not so for my 'initiators'. I've watched families getting destroyed and people losing their lives because of these matters. I have seen people being pushed to the limits, and even the moral standards that we often subscribe to being pushed aside, or falling apart. This matter is tougher than you can imagine.
It's a historical force, and effect, and the way to go about it is to create a culture and symbolism that's different from what we presently have.
Empathy, dedicated investigation, love and patience are what we need. Not self righteousness. Sawa sawa. Sasa ile maneno yetu ingine - when will we start it? For example how can you be against 'self righteousness' yet you are god? Your righteousness is within. Hii ni balaa gani umeanzisha? I get your point. This word 'self' has two extremes, the limits of Man. I mean the 'earthly Man'.
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