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                gadj wrote:Now back to the cars, next time he does purchase more cars he should try some 4*4, this tiida cant maneuver well on the rough roads of macha.   At least this is a good start. Going by what I saw, very few if them were Tiida.   
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
  
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                The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised? 
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
  
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                The first comments to this thread are hilarious lol! Im wondering if Kularaha actioned his threat   . TULIA.........UFUNZWE!  
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
  
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                jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
  
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                Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  Both. What would stop a rogue supplier from buying a salvage vehicle, take it kirinyaga road for repairs and then sell it to the county govt?   
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
  
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                jaggernaut wrote:Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  Both. What would stop a rogue supplier from buying a salvage vehicle, take it kirinyaga road for repairs and then sell it to the county govt?   Well...That would probably happen in your county, not in Machakos...Unatoka wapi? Hatujui kuiba    
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
  
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                Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  Both. What would stop a rogue supplier from buying a salvage vehicle, take it kirinyaga road for repairs and then sell it to the county govt?   Well...That would probably happen in your county, not in Machakos...Unatoka wapi? Hatujui kuiba    My county is Nairobi and with all the wheeler dealers around (including @mawinder & co.), you can never be sure. But the big question is .... does the law allow govt (national & county) to buy used cars?  
            
 
         
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
  
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                jaggernaut wrote:Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  Both. What would stop a rogue supplier from buying a salvage vehicle, take it kirinyaga road for repairs and then sell it to the county govt?   Obviously there is always a risk that some wheeler dealer can scam you, but is that a good enough reason to deter you from doing the ideal and most reasonable thing. I suppose you as an individual do appreciate that 90% of Kenyan population who own cars actually opt for second hands. You might constitute this number yourself. If it makes sense for you and I, so should it be for Tax payer funded institutions. Ways ought to be found to mitigate the risk you raise, but certainly not to abandon a good thing out of paranoia Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic  
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
  
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                Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  Both. What would stop a rogue supplier from buying a salvage vehicle, take it kirinyaga road for repairs and then sell it to the county govt?   Well...That would probably happen in your county, not in Machakos...Unatoka wapi?  Hatujui kuiba   Fear of kamutii   The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem  
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
  
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                In my honest opinion.. 120 cars are unnecessary for Machakos county.. 
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
  
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                poundfoolish wrote:In my honest opinion.. 120 cars are unnecessary for Machakos county..  Target is 200 cars...County yako ni gani...hata hamjanunua baiskeli na unaongea. Bure kabia! Ama nyinyi ndio mmenunua 300 copies of 'The flame...'  
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
  
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                @jaggernaut is asking a valid question, why not a few but brand new land cruisers (my little geography tells me this would be ideal)? We should not just be happy with quantity but also quality!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".   
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
  
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                Magigi wrote:poundfoolish wrote:In my honest opinion.. 120 cars are unnecessary for Machakos county..  Target is 200 cars...County yako ni gani...hata hamjanunua baiskeli na unaongea. Bure kabia! Ama nyinyi ndio mmenunua 300 copies of 'The flame...'  Mutua's approach to fighting crime is also wrong. He should deal with the causes not the symptoms. Thus he should create employment to reduce crime not buying 2 patrol cars for every village ....and menacing dogs.   
            
 
         
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
  
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                I bet @kula raha is currently hiding under a thicket like @Quincy Timberlake! Portfolio: Sold  You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
 
   
            
 
         
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                poundfoolish wrote:In my honest opinion.. 120 cars are unnecessary for Machakos county..  What scientific reasoning are you basing your opinion on? Population? Geographical size? No of locations/Sub counties? etc...If you bring your figures, we may discuss it from that perspective.  
            
 
         
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                McReggae wrote:@jaggernaut is asking a valid question, why not a few but brand new land cruisers? We should just be happy with quantity but also quality!!!  Yep, how suitable are those vehicles for the job considering the poor roads in the county? Even in syokimau the roads are in tatters.  
            
 
         
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
  
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                jaggernaut wrote:Magigi wrote:poundfoolish wrote:In my honest opinion.. 120 cars are unnecessary for Machakos county..  Target is 200 cars...County yako ni gani...hata hamjanunua baiskeli na unaongea. Bure kabia! Ama nyinyi ndio mmenunua 300 copies of 'The flame...'  Mutua's approach to fighting crime is also wrong. He should deal with the causes not the symptoms. Thus he should create employment to reduce crime not buying 2 patrol cars for every village ....and menacing dogs.   That is where he started. He gave them seeds, tuchuis, tractors etc. Wacha walime sasa.  
            
 
         
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                Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The cars that Mutua buys seem to be mutumbas.  From the subarus to now the Tiidas.  I thought govt procurement regulations are very clear that the govt does not buy used cars - since this can be abused by individuals to supply govt with junks. And was tendering done for the supply of these vehicles, was it advertised?  Which government...Government of Kenya or Government of Machakos?  Both. What would stop a rogue supplier from buying a salvage vehicle, take it kirinyaga road for repairs and then sell it to the county govt?   Well...That would probably happen in your county, not in Machakos...Unatoka wapi?  Hatujui kuiba   Mbwa na gari za polisi, ni za kushika kaluvu? Its all good.  
            
 
         
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