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The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
Pesa Nane
#1581 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:02:55 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Putin says choices have consequences after Turkey shoots Russian plane. Tells "supporters of terrorism and those who fund ISIS by buying their oil" (i.e Turkey) that they have made a grave mistake. WW3 inanukia.

http://www.dailymail.co....ane-crashing-trees.html


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
guru267
#1582 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:01:07 AM
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Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ


I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.


Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ecstacy
#1583 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:58:52 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
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The alternate war view:

Lucky case of Iraqi Special Forces surviving an ISIS VBIED in the battle for Fallujah - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18H1YDdQieg

ISIS convoy escaping Fallujah mowed down from Iraqi choppers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_bdfQMXYY0

Anytime clerics or politicians or their puppets issue war declarations, the reality for even the armed forces is ugly. The only winners in this are the weapons merchants and corporates eager to truck away the regions natural resources.
enyands
#1584 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 2:07:16 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ


I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.


Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.



Talking to a Muslim personal friend they believe in return of Issa ((Jesus christ), but the Issa will have to die like any other person on earth after he comes back, then he will face judgement with all of us . Old testament and Quran are mostly similar ,they are different on new testament bit. I could be wrong and would love @alpha_doti to correct me on this one .
Spikes
#1585 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 9:18:27 AM
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Location: Mombasa
enyands wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ


I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.


Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.



Talking to a Muslim personal friend they believe in return of Issa ((Jesus christ), but the Issa will have to die like any other person on earth after he comes back, then he will face judgement with all of us . Old testament and Quran are mostly similar ,they are different on new testament bit. I could be wrong and would love @alpha_doti to correct me on this one .



I am very close to Muslims and they say Jesus will be charge in the day of judgement.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Impunity
#1586 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 9:31:52 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ


I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.


Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.


So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior?
Whay cant you all be Christians?

Do Muslims belive in Life after death?
Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity?

Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old.
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#1587 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 2:50:46 PM
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Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Impunity wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ


I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.


Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.


So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior?
Whay cant you all be Christians?

Do Muslims belive in Life after death?
Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity?

Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old.


I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question.
Where are the two Caliphs?
Sad Sad Sad
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

AlphDoti
#1588 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 3:18:26 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Impunity wrote:
Impunity wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ

I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.

Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.

So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior?
Whay cant you all be Christians?

Do Muslims belive in Life after death?
Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity?

Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old.

I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question.
Where are the two Caliphs?
Sad Sad Sad

Your question one: are Muslims also waiting the Christ return?

Answer: Yes. Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h said: "There is no prophet between me and him (Jesus), and he shall descend.
He… will stay in the world for forty years; then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral Prayer for him." (received by Abu Dawood)

Allah says: "He (the son of Mary) shall be a known sign of the Hour; so have no doubt concerning it and follow Me." (Quran 43:61)
AlphDoti
#1589 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 3:33:56 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Impunity wrote:
Impunity wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ

I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.

Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.

So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior?
Whay cant you all be Christians?

Do Muslims belive in Life after death?
Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity?

Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old.

I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question.
Where are the two Caliphs?
Sad Sad Sad

Your question two: Why can't you all be Christians?

Answer: Please read to the end. I'm sorry it became long.

What you call Christianity today is not what Jesus pbuh taught. What the Christians call Gospel is not the original message of Jesus, it has been corrupted. The reason he's coming back because his followers mistook him that he claimed divinity. There is no other messenger who havs been mistook to have claimed divity other than Jesus pbuh. That is why Allah raised him up alive.

So in his second coming, he will not bring in any new law. He will follow the same law of the Quran. He will not teach anything new. He will come to testify to the Christians that he never claimed divinity, and that he is not God.

Quran 5:116: And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'" He (Jesus) will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself."

Narrated Abu Huraira, Allah’s Apostle said, "By Him in whose hands my soul is, the son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the cross and kill the pig... (Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425)

He is coming back to judge you Christians. He is coming to rectify you. And he is telling in gospel of Matthew 24:5 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.'

What does Jesus say to that? He will say I never knew you! Depart from me! Yee of inequities! Evil doors! Evil mongers! You doing things in the name of Jesus etc... But to Jesus he will tell you get away. You know why? Because you call him LORD. He is not your Lord. He is not your God.

That is the reason.

He Jesus taught you how to pray. Jesus said: "Pray then like this: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven...'"
Where did he say Jesus Christ is father in heaven? But you Christians you have forgotten that. You are worshiping him, instead of worshiping the Father.
AlphDoti
#1590 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 3:59:51 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Impunity wrote:
Impunity wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ

I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong.

Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion.

So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior?
Whay cant you all be Christians?

Do Muslims belive in Life after death?
Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity?

Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old.

I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question.
Where are the two Caliphs?
Sad Sad Sad

Your question three: Do Muslims belive in Life after death?

Answer: yes, we believe. See details below.

“And fear a Day when you will be returned to Allah. Then every soul will be compensated for what it earned, and they will not be treated unjustly.” [Quran 2:281]

“Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day of Resurrection. So he who is drawn away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise has attained [his desire]. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion.”

“O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah , His angels, His books (Torah, Zabur, Injil and Quran), His messengers (including Jesus), and the Last Day he has certainly gone far astray” [Quran 4:136]

“..[and] Allah will send water from the sky and the the dead bodies will grow like vegetation grows, ..” [Hadith #4935 in Bukhari]
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