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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Waste of time and resources or is it a way for someone to pocket their fee. Exactly. The management is the biggest impediment followed closely by vested interests. I said herein that Mckinsey was being paid for nothing. Zero outcome. Btw McKinsey brought zero... Even those wave thing of theirs no one is using them and in any case most of the project leads have left the company... The Polish 6 atleast helped with HOTAC they are the ones that came up with that thing for hotels to bid for pax weekly. Ohhh one of McKinsey's project was changing those plastic pouches for unaccompanied minors from plastic to paper....That is the only thing I can see being operational. Yeah, it is easy to tell even if you are an outsider. The 'holy' Ngunze was already celebrating the 'successful turnaround' under his watch. What a shameful thing it was? Very incompetent individual being placed at the top of a complex business. My observations regarding Ngunze at that point in time also applies to Mr. Allan Killavuka. He is a clueless stooge planted in KQ just to protect the vested interests. His failure to get the cargo business up to mark during the pandemic is a true testament of his inexperience and poor leadership skills. Polish 6 had very specific airline experience which is always the pre-requisite to be an Airline Consultant. The same thing applies to the current CEO - he doesn't have the necessary aviation experience and won't listen to Managers with the same in KQ. It is therefore very hard for him to get the business out of the mess it is in. If they cannot even deploy a B737 across Africa to ferry Cargo then where will they deploy a B787. Steer Group doesn't have any aviation related experience. The recommendations they will provide to KQ include; 1. Fleet reduction 2. Staff redundancy 3. Network reduction 4. Outsourcing of core operations including maintenance of planes With the above in mind, this Airline will never compete at all. Court fights with staff will be the order of the day. Just mark this post, it will come to pass. What KQ requires is an effective leadership. Lease contracts of B737 terminated. The consultant Steer Group was a condition KQ hires for them to be given the $101.8mn bailout from treasury. I recently saw a B737-800 charter flight for the state visit delegation. Which B737s are you referring. Only the older 2 B737-700. How will the Airline now compete with just E190s? Every right thinking manager in KQ knows very well that nothing tangible come out such consultancy job and they should have diverted that money elsewhere. You can see the CEO instead of deliberating on strategies to get the Airline flying he is busy with safari rally and going on state visit with the master. Yes it was two Boeing 737-700 whose leases were terminated. 45% of the loan from Kenya government funded engine overhaul for 15 Embraer aircraft Government largesse to the rescue. Where would KQ be without GoK. Itβs like a bottomless pit This is what happens when you run multiple handles, take whiskey at exchange bar then forget which handle you want to comment with πππ Life is short. Live passionately.
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Waste of time and resources or is it a way for someone to pocket their fee. Exactly. The management is the biggest impediment followed closely by vested interests. I said herein that Mckinsey was being paid for nothing. Zero outcome. Btw McKinsey brought zero... Even those wave thing of theirs no one is using them and in any case most of the project leads have left the company... The Polish 6 atleast helped with HOTAC they are the ones that came up with that thing for hotels to bid for pax weekly. Ohhh one of McKinsey's project was changing those plastic pouches for unaccompanied minors from plastic to paper....That is the only thing I can see being operational. Yeah, it is easy to tell even if you are an outsider. The 'holy' Ngunze was already celebrating the 'successful turnaround' under his watch. What a shameful thing it was? Very incompetent individual being placed at the top of a complex business. My observations regarding Ngunze at that point in time also applies to Mr. Allan Killavuka. He is a clueless stooge planted in KQ just to protect the vested interests. His failure to get the cargo business up to mark during the pandemic is a true testament of his inexperience and poor leadership skills. Polish 6 had very specific airline experience which is always the pre-requisite to be an Airline Consultant. The same thing applies to the current CEO - he doesn't have the necessary aviation experience and won't listen to Managers with the same in KQ. It is therefore very hard for him to get the business out of the mess it is in. If they cannot even deploy a B737 across Africa to ferry Cargo then where will they deploy a B787. Steer Group doesn't have any aviation related experience. The recommendations they will provide to KQ include; 1. Fleet reduction 2. Staff redundancy 3. Network reduction 4. Outsourcing of core operations including maintenance of planes With the above in mind, this Airline will never compete at all. Court fights with staff will be the order of the day. Just mark this post, it will come to pass. What KQ requires is an effective leadership. Lease contracts of B737 terminated. The consultant Steer Group was a condition KQ hires for them to be given the $101.8mn bailout from treasury. I recently saw a B737-800 charter flight for the state visit delegation. Which B737s are you referring. Only the older 2 B737-700. How will the Airline now compete with just E190s? Every right thinking manager in KQ knows very well that nothing tangible come out such consultancy job and they should have diverted that money elsewhere. You can see the CEO instead of deliberating on strategies to get the Airline flying he is busy with safari rally and going on state visit with the master. Yes it was two Boeing 737-700 whose leases were terminated. 45% of the loan from Kenya government funded engine overhaul for 15 Embraer aircraft Government largesse to the rescue. Where would KQ be without GoK. Itβs like a bottomless pit This is what happens when you run multiple handles, take whiskey at exchange bar then forget which handle you want to comment with πππ Haha. Ushindwe na ulegee. Thereβs only one OBIERO
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Waste of time and resources or is it a way for someone to pocket their fee. Exactly. The management is the biggest impediment followed closely by vested interests. I said herein that Mckinsey was being paid for nothing. Zero outcome. Btw McKinsey brought zero... Even those wave thing of theirs no one is using them and in any case most of the project leads have left the company... The Polish 6 atleast helped with HOTAC they are the ones that came up with that thing for hotels to bid for pax weekly. Ohhh one of McKinsey's project was changing those plastic pouches for unaccompanied minors from plastic to paper....That is the only thing I can see being operational. Yeah, it is easy to tell even if you are an outsider. The 'holy' Ngunze was already celebrating the 'successful turnaround' under his watch. What a shameful thing it was? Very incompetent individual being placed at the top of a complex business. My observations regarding Ngunze at that point in time also applies to Mr. Allan Killavuka. He is a clueless stooge planted in KQ just to protect the vested interests. His failure to get the cargo business up to mark during the pandemic is a true testament of his inexperience and poor leadership skills. Polish 6 had very specific airline experience which is always the pre-requisite to be an Airline Consultant. The same thing applies to the current CEO - he doesn't have the necessary aviation experience and won't listen to Managers with the same in KQ. It is therefore very hard for him to get the business out of the mess it is in. If they cannot even deploy a B737 across Africa to ferry Cargo then where will they deploy a B787. Steer Group doesn't have any aviation related experience. The recommendations they will provide to KQ include; 1. Fleet reduction 2. Staff redundancy 3. Network reduction 4. Outsourcing of core operations including maintenance of planes With the above in mind, this Airline will never compete at all. Court fights with staff will be the order of the day. Just mark this post, it will come to pass. What KQ requires is an effective leadership. Lease contracts of B737 terminated. The consultant Steer Group was a condition KQ hires for them to be given the $101.8mn bailout from treasury. I recently saw a B737-800 charter flight for the state visit delegation. Which B737s are you referring. Only the older 2 B737-700. How will the Airline now compete with just E190s? Every right thinking manager in KQ knows very well that nothing tangible come out such consultancy job and they should have diverted that money elsewhere. You can see the CEO instead of deliberating on strategies to get the Airline flying he is busy with safari rally and going on state visit with the master. Yes it was two Boeing 737-700 whose leases were terminated. 45% of the loan from Kenya government funded engine overhaul for 15 Embraer aircraft Government largesse to the rescue. Where would KQ be without GoK. Itβs like a bottomless pit This is what happens when you run multiple handles, take whiskey at exchange bar then forget which handle you want to comment with πππ  I am surprised this thread is still alive! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Waste of time and resources or is it a way for someone to pocket their fee. Exactly. The management is the biggest impediment followed closely by vested interests. I said herein that Mckinsey was being paid for nothing. Zero outcome. Btw McKinsey brought zero... Even those wave thing of theirs no one is using them and in any case most of the project leads have left the company... The Polish 6 atleast helped with HOTAC they are the ones that came up with that thing for hotels to bid for pax weekly. Ohhh one of McKinsey's project was changing those plastic pouches for unaccompanied minors from plastic to paper....That is the only thing I can see being operational. Yeah, it is easy to tell even if you are an outsider. The 'holy' Ngunze was already celebrating the 'successful turnaround' under his watch. What a shameful thing it was? Very incompetent individual being placed at the top of a complex business. My observations regarding Ngunze at that point in time also applies to Mr. Allan Killavuka. He is a clueless stooge planted in KQ just to protect the vested interests. His failure to get the cargo business up to mark during the pandemic is a true testament of his inexperience and poor leadership skills. Polish 6 had very specific airline experience which is always the pre-requisite to be an Airline Consultant. The same thing applies to the current CEO - he doesn't have the necessary aviation experience and won't listen to Managers with the same in KQ. It is therefore very hard for him to get the business out of the mess it is in. If they cannot even deploy a B737 across Africa to ferry Cargo then where will they deploy a B787. Steer Group doesn't have any aviation related experience. The recommendations they will provide to KQ include; 1. Fleet reduction 2. Staff redundancy 3. Network reduction 4. Outsourcing of core operations including maintenance of planes With the above in mind, this Airline will never compete at all. Court fights with staff will be the order of the day. Just mark this post, it will come to pass. What KQ requires is an effective leadership. Lease contracts of B737 terminated. The consultant Steer Group was a condition KQ hires for them to be given the $101.8mn bailout from treasury. I recently saw a B737-800 charter flight for the state visit delegation. Which B737s are you referring. Only the older 2 B737-700. How will the Airline now compete with just E190s? Every right thinking manager in KQ knows very well that nothing tangible come out such consultancy job and they should have diverted that money elsewhere. You can see the CEO instead of deliberating on strategies to get the Airline flying he is busy with safari rally and going on state visit with the master. Yes it was two Boeing 737-700 whose leases were terminated. 45% of the loan from Kenya government funded engine overhaul for 15 Embraer aircraft Government largesse to the rescue. Where would KQ be without GoK. Itβs like a bottomless pit This is what happens when you run multiple handles, take whiskey at exchange bar then forget which handle you want to comment with πππ I am surprised this thread is still alive! 51.2B of fair value market cap is locked in suspension and you imagine that the market will forget about KQ
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Waste of time and resources or is it a way for someone to pocket their fee. Exactly. The management is the biggest impediment followed closely by vested interests. I said herein that Mckinsey was being paid for nothing. Zero outcome. Btw McKinsey brought zero... Even those wave thing of theirs no one is using them and in any case most of the project leads have left the company... The Polish 6 atleast helped with HOTAC they are the ones that came up with that thing for hotels to bid for pax weekly. Ohhh one of McKinsey's project was changing those plastic pouches for unaccompanied minors from plastic to paper....That is the only thing I can see being operational. Yeah, it is easy to tell even if you are an outsider. The 'holy' Ngunze was already celebrating the 'successful turnaround' under his watch. What a shameful thing it was? Very incompetent individual being placed at the top of a complex business. My observations regarding Ngunze at that point in time also applies to Mr. Allan Killavuka. He is a clueless stooge planted in KQ just to protect the vested interests. His failure to get the cargo business up to mark during the pandemic is a true testament of his inexperience and poor leadership skills. Polish 6 had very specific airline experience which is always the pre-requisite to be an Airline Consultant. The same thing applies to the current CEO - he doesn't have the necessary aviation experience and won't listen to Managers with the same in KQ. It is therefore very hard for him to get the business out of the mess it is in. If they cannot even deploy a B737 across Africa to ferry Cargo then where will they deploy a B787. Steer Group doesn't have any aviation related experience. The recommendations they will provide to KQ include; 1. Fleet reduction 2. Staff redundancy 3. Network reduction 4. Outsourcing of core operations including maintenance of planes With the above in mind, this Airline will never compete at all. Court fights with staff will be the order of the day. Just mark this post, it will come to pass. What KQ requires is an effective leadership. Lease contracts of B737 terminated. The consultant Steer Group was a condition KQ hires for them to be given the $101.8mn bailout from treasury. I recently saw a B737-800 charter flight for the state visit delegation. Which B737s are you referring. Only the older 2 B737-700. How will the Airline now compete with just E190s? Every right thinking manager in KQ knows very well that nothing tangible come out such consultancy job and they should have diverted that money elsewhere. You can see the CEO instead of deliberating on strategies to get the Airline flying he is busy with safari rally and going on state visit with the master. Yes it was two Boeing 737-700 whose leases were terminated. 45% of the loan from Kenya government funded engine overhaul for 15 Embraer aircraft Government largesse to the rescue. Where would KQ be without GoK. Itβs like a bottomless pit This is what happens when you run multiple handles, take whiskey at exchange bar then forget which handle you want to comment with πππ I am surprised this thread is still alive! 51.2B of fair value market cap is locked in ( suspension) INSERT TYPO, a casket and you imagine that the market will forget about KQ and by extension, I understand; the locked in content, rots into phew(RIP)  pooh!!!! I verily RIP this case. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Waste of time and resources or is it a way for someone to pocket their fee. Exactly. The management is the biggest impediment followed closely by vested interests. I said herein that Mckinsey was being paid for nothing. Zero outcome. Btw McKinsey brought zero... Even those wave thing of theirs no one is using them and in any case most of the project leads have left the company... The Polish 6 atleast helped with HOTAC they are the ones that came up with that thing for hotels to bid for pax weekly. Ohhh one of McKinsey's project was changing those plastic pouches for unaccompanied minors from plastic to paper....That is the only thing I can see being operational. Yeah, it is easy to tell even if you are an outsider. The 'holy' Ngunze was already celebrating the 'successful turnaround' under his watch. What a shameful thing it was? Very incompetent individual being placed at the top of a complex business. My observations regarding Ngunze at that point in time also applies to Mr. Allan Killavuka. He is a clueless stooge planted in KQ just to protect the vested interests. His failure to get the cargo business up to mark during the pandemic is a true testament of his inexperience and poor leadership skills. Polish 6 had very specific airline experience which is always the pre-requisite to be an Airline Consultant. The same thing applies to the current CEO - he doesn't have the necessary aviation experience and won't listen to Managers with the same in KQ. It is therefore very hard for him to get the business out of the mess it is in. If they cannot even deploy a B737 across Africa to ferry Cargo then where will they deploy a B787. Steer Group doesn't have any aviation related experience. The recommendations they will provide to KQ include; 1. Fleet reduction 2. Staff redundancy 3. Network reduction 4. Outsourcing of core operations including maintenance of planes With the above in mind, this Airline will never compete at all. Court fights with staff will be the order of the day. Just mark this post, it will come to pass. What KQ requires is an effective leadership. Lease contracts of B737 terminated. The consultant Steer Group was a condition KQ hires for them to be given the $101.8mn bailout from treasury. I recently saw a B737-800 charter flight for the state visit delegation. Which B737s are you referring. Only the older 2 B737-700. How will the Airline now compete with just E190s? Every right thinking manager in KQ knows very well that nothing tangible come out such consultancy job and they should have diverted that money elsewhere. You can see the CEO instead of deliberating on strategies to get the Airline flying he is busy with safari rally and going on state visit with the master. Yes it was two Boeing 737-700 whose leases were terminated. 45% of the loan from Kenya government funded engine overhaul for 15 Embraer aircraft Government largesse to the rescue. Where would KQ be without GoK. Itβs like a bottomless pit This is what happens when you run multiple handles, take whiskey at exchange bar then forget which handle you want to comment with πππ I am surprised this thread is still alive! 51.2B of fair value market cap is locked in ( suspension) INSERT TYPO, a casket and you imagine that the market will forget about KQ and by extension, I understand; the locked in content, rots into phew(RIP) pooh!!!! I verily RIP this case. Lipa ushuru kaka. We are getting paid. GoK knows the impact that this suspension is having on the market, non-payment is not an option. Loans from Bretton Woods have already been secured to ensure the 18 state corporations are βrestructuredβ https://www.the-star.co....cture-18-state-agencies/
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KQ spending Sh0.5m daily on four idle planesβYou can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.β - Ben Graham
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Mistakes all over... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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https://www.businessdail...axis-in-nairobi-3515046 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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