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NASA Resistance Army!!!
Bigchick
#281 Posted : Sunday, November 05, 2017 10:07:08 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
[quote=hardwood]Wasn't Bidco planning to set up oil palm plantations in western and nyanza...and transform the region economically? #LordOfPoverty

https://www.standardmedi...f-billionaires-in-kenya[/quote]


In other news, I have just seen 60 year old Orengo dressed as Fidel Castro and trying desperately to ape the Marxist revolutionary cred of old. Can someone tell these idiots they look ridiculous? Even University students outgrew this crap decades ago.

Where is FRM when you need him?

When you are trying to sell revolution a clownish image is not a very big help.


Is Orengo 60 or more?I remember when they used to harass Moi under the Young Turks banner Moi told them to stop cheating themselves that they are young.He told them at 50 you cannot consider yourself young.

Anyhow whatever the age he has overstayed his campus comrade power days.He looks rediculous trying to hype the crowd.Seeing through his lenses even his eyes are now grey with age.Sad the path he has chosen for his people.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
2012
#282 Posted : Sunday, November 05, 2017 10:37:50 PM
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murchr wrote:
2012 wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Country needs to find a way to mute this NRM and other related nonesense, otherwise we are destroying the democratic, economic and social gains. What options does the incoming regime have (excluding dialogue)?


We need to amend our constitution from the 'winner takes it all' to be more inclusive.


I have heard that talk but what does winner takeall mean? Just seen a tweet about bringing back 42 ministries. If that is it what do 42 ministries do for Kenya?

The constitution is ok as far as gov't is concerned what we are facing is greed of power.
47 governors/senators/women are more than enough. We are over represented.


No, I don't mean ministries. What I mean is that with the current constitution the presidents can only come from at most 4 communities, Gema, Kalenjins, Luos, Luhyas and maybe Kambas. The rest will even find it impossible to be running mates because one will need two big tribes to even have a fighting chance. The presidency needs to be devolved too somehow.

BBI will solve it
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limanika
#283 Posted : Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:03:50 PM
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The greatest 'unintended' consequence of the new constitution is the influence the executive have over parliament. The intention of drafters was to magnify 'seperation of powers' between parliament and executive, as opposed to previous system which was a mongrel where cabinet was carved out from parliament. But with the ruling party controlling parliament, we cannot have proper check and balance. We have one party dominating both parliament and executive. Not good.
harrydre
#284 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 3:52:07 AM
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murchr
#285 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 5:19:23 AM
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2012 wrote:
murchr wrote:
2012 wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Country needs to find a way to mute this NRM and other related nonesense, otherwise we are destroying the democratic, economic and social gains. What options does the incoming regime have (excluding dialogue)?


We need to amend our constitution from the 'winner takes it all' to be more inclusive.


I have heard that talk but what does winner takeall mean? Just seen a tweet about bringing back 42 ministries. If that is it what do 42 ministries do for Kenya?

The constitution is ok as far as gov't is concerned what we are facing is greed of power.
47 governors/senators/women are more than enough. We are over represented.


No, I don't mean ministries. What I mean is that with the current constitution the presidents can only come from at most 4 communities, Gema, Kalenjins, Luos, Luhyas and maybe Kambas. The rest will even find it impossible to be running mates because one will need two big tribes to even have a fighting chance. The presidency needs to be devolved too somehow.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly and would that be democracy? Guess what, your tribes would start internal fights by clan etc and it would no longer be about issues* but personalities.

We need to grow out of this big man syndrome and accept that only one person can be President every 5 years. The US(i want to believe is the most democratic country in the world) has been in existence for 241 years and guess what...of the 50 states about 29 have not had a President leading the nation. NY has had 7 the latest being Trump and Hillary too is a Newyorker.

May be its time we looked at what the constitution has again, 47 governors-"county Presidents/chiefs"- these people are the most important people in your communities. Look, what has Uhuru done for kikuyus? Apart from the mental gratification -Uhuru ni wetu- I see nothing else. Merians benefited most from Kibaki's Presidency no?

The county cake is distributed by the comptroller of budgets, most of those who want the Presidency so bad can not even account for the little pennies they have.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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muganda
#286 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 11:04:30 AM
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The trouble with Kenyan politics:

01. unending drumming of intolerance makes independents regret voting with Jubilee.

02. unending actions of sycophants makes independents seem like lunatics when they empathise with NASA.

And why hasn't NASA boycotted Safaricom completely?

Bigchick
#287 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 12:06:53 PM
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muganda wrote:
The trouble with Kenyan politics:

01. unending drumming of intolerance makes independents regret voting with Jubilee.

02. unending actions of sycophants makes independents seem like lunatics when they empathise with NASA.

And why hasn't NASA boycotted Safaricom completely?





As per Kibra Declaration yesterday,there shall be a swearing in at Nyayo Stadium the same day Uhuru is being sworn in.If action is taken,will you consider that an act of intolerance?There has been alot of provoking from Kony and his soldiers but so far the other side has restrained.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
muganda
#288 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 12:35:08 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
muganda wrote:
The trouble with Kenyan politics:

01. unending drumming of intolerance makes independents regret voting with Jubilee.

02. unending actions of sycophants makes independents seem like lunatics when they empathise with NASA.

And why hasn't NASA boycotted Safaricom completely?


As per Kibra Declaration yesterday,there shall be a swearing in at Nyayo Stadium the same day Uhuru is being sworn in.If action is taken,will you consider that an act of intolerance?There has been alot of provoking from Kony and his soldiers but so far the other side has restrained.

Ditto - 'unending actions of sycophants'. The minority must have their say but we've given Uhuru the mandate to lead the country.

To silence the critics, Uhuru could borrow a leaf from Kibaki (you've got to respect his wisdom in hindsight). Ending the nurses strike was a good beginning. Follow up with reviving agriculture, funding counties, cultural festivities, NYS refocus, reinvigorating economy etc.

limanika
#289 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 8:37:20 PM
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Do not be surprised if the move to hewatel is a subtle way to 1)solicit a bribe from them - by hoodwinking them 'we can help you gain 40% market share' 2) solicit a bribe from safcom 'so as not to loose 40% market share'. Of course you court both,take from both, but the highest bidder carries the day. All this to fund the movement activities in preparation for the mother and father of all battles 2022
harrydre
#290 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 9:29:26 PM
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limanika wrote:
Do not be surprised if the move to hewatel is a subtle way to 1)solicit a bribe from them - by hoodwinking them 'we can help you gain 40% market share' 2) solicit a bribe from safcom 'so as not to loose 40% market share'. Of course you court both,take from both, but the highest bidder carries the day. All this to fund the movement activities in preparation for the mother and father of all battles 2022


You are right. Joshua Kony has to get funding for 2022. With no foreign support, he has resulted to extortion. Typical militia script. Pay up or show up on the boycott list.
i.am.back!!!!
Shak
#291 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 11:03:42 PM
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As expected, safaricom agents in Luo Nyanza are being targeted for harm. This is unacceptable and criminal
Amores
#292 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 11:40:02 PM
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Shak wrote:
As expected, safaricom agents in Luo Nyanza are being targeted for harm. This is unacceptable and criminal

I have problems seeing how this will be good/a win for NRM in the long run. They hurt their own and common man, in order to bring bourgeoisie down.

In the grand scheme scheme of things, how will this translate into votes in 90 days(if election is successfully challenged) or in 2022?
I am happy
harrydre
#293 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 5:12:06 AM
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Shak
#294 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 7:00:56 AM
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Still shifting goalposts
wal6807
#295 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 7:24:04 AM
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I hope they sold their safaricom shares before announcing the boycott ,it would be irrational to start a boycott , have the share price drop then remember to sell ...
"Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers."
•Socrates (470?-399 BC)
Iganamagana
#296 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 7:48:26 AM
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wal6807 wrote:
I hope they sold their safaricom shares before announcing the boycott ,it would be irrational to start a boycott , have the share price drop then remember to sell ...


Are they ever rational?
Shak
#297 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 11:58:37 AM
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Iganamagana wrote:
wal6807 wrote:
I hope they sold their safaricom shares before announcing the boycott ,it would be irrational to start a boycott , have the share price drop then remember to sell ...


Are they ever rational?

Maybe this is a scheme to drive the share price down so that they can buy more
harrydre
#298 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:41:44 PM
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Shak wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
wal6807 wrote:
I hope they sold their safaricom shares before announcing the boycott ,it would be irrational to start a boycott , have the share price drop then remember to sell ...


Are they ever rational?

Maybe this is a scheme to drive the share price down so that they can buy more


Watashangaa

http://www.wazua.co.ke/investor/livefeedfull.aspx
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gk
#299 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 6:10:42 PM
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harrydre wrote:
Shak wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
wal6807 wrote:
I hope they sold their safaricom shares before announcing the boycott ,it would be irrational to start a boycott , have the share price drop then remember to sell ...


Are they ever rational?

Maybe this is a scheme to drive the share price down so that they can buy more


Watashangaa

http://www.wazua.co.ke/investor/livefeedfull.aspx


Lords of poverty they are: if you recall, at the time of Safcom IPO, ODM told its supporters not to participate. Ati because it has/had some shadowy (mobitelea) shareholding besides garment and Vodafone.

limanika
#300 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:19:15 PM
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gk wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Shak wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
wal6807 wrote:
I hope they sold their safaricom shares before announcing the boycott ,it would be irrational to start a boycott , have the share price drop then remember to sell ...


Are they ever rational?

Maybe this is a scheme to drive the share price down so that they can buy more


Watashangaa

http://www.wazua.co.ke/investor/livefeedfull.aspx


Lords of poverty they are: if you recall, at the time of Safcom IPO, ODM told its supporters not to participate. Ati because it has/had some shadowy (mobitelea) shareholding besides garment and Vodafone.


Aliar dreams, eats and drinks politics day in day out. If he doesn't say something in a day he gets sick. So guys let him be. It is therepeutic for him to talk everyday. So expect many ultimatums between now and '22. The worst you can do is loose sleep over this. Go back to work guys
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