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Why I'm Still Paying 110/= Plus at the Pump
MaichBlack
#141 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:13:54 PM
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Sober wrote:
The controls were put in place to protect from increasing prices of fuel, on the same note I was expecting the downward trend to be control free and follow market forces.

Exactly!!!

Verdict: Oil companies cannot self regulate. They are happy with the high prices and have cartel like behaviour! Recipe for disaster (to the consumer of course).
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Cde Monomotapa
#142 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:35:23 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Sober wrote:
The controls were put in place to protect from increasing prices of fuel, on the same note I was expecting the downward trend to be control free and follow market forces.

Exactly!!!

Verdict: Oil companies cannot self regulate. They are happy with the high prices and have cartel like behaviour! Recipe for disaster (to the consumer of course).


The reason why the formula was introduced is because Kenyans complained that OMC prices were not reflective of oil trends - true.

The formula has fixed components - GoK taxes & OMC margins (which were recently increased).

Now, the variables are oil prices, interest rates & USD/KES trends. Here is a Jan-Mar oil chart http://www.nasdaq.com/ma...ts/crude-oil-brent.aspx

We all should know the weighting fuel & energy have on Kenya's inflation and if we would like to see interest rates come down with the KBRR, this formula should be maintained.

Otw, back to square 1. Let the people decide...
mlennyma
#143 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:29:29 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Sober wrote:
The controls were put in place to protect from increasing prices of fuel, on the same note I was expecting the downward trend to be control free and follow market forces.

Exactly!!!

Verdict: Oil companies cannot self regulate. They are happy with the high prices and have cartel like behaviour! Recipe for disaster (to the consumer of course).

its better when the oil companies become the cartels because they share the loot with shareholders, right now the gvt cartel eats alone
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Impunity
#144 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:58:32 AM
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Oil plunges further to a 6-year low. Is $30 a barrel next?

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mlennyma
#145 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:33:39 AM
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and kenyan oil price is rising
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Speculz
#146 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:38:07 AM
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mlennyma wrote:

and kenyan oil price is rising


Perhaps erc is heeding the twitter calls to raise fuel prices to solve the traffic issues smile .
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MaichBlack
#147 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:10:30 PM
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Speculz wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

and kenyan oil price is rising


Perhaps erc is heeding the twitter calls to raise fuel prices to solve the traffic issues smile .

What a nice idea!!!

While at it, we could raise the cost of Healthcare to reduce congestion in hospitals, increase school fee to reduce congestion. Actually, the school fees for National Schools should be set at 150k per term to reduce the ugly competition for places and endless complains!!!

And luckily, Petrol, Diesel and Kerosene are not used for cooking, in manufacturing and transporting just about anything we use in our daily lives etc. Public transport vehicles also don't use fuel so Kenyans will be encouraged to use public transport!

And given that the so called Kenyans on Twitter are Industrialists, economists, Captains of industries etc. it would definitely be very wise to take their advice. If they were just idle Kenyans engaging Nigerians in "mchongowano", that would be a problem.
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streetwise
#148 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:28:14 PM
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The issue is not that we want to reduce the vehicles on the road. No the guys ( erc, fuel levy etc.) who get a % of the fuel money are getting very little and getting jittery.

Jimmy Boy
#149 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:13:43 PM
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The pricing mechanisim used by the ERC is very transparent and fair I do not see anything sinister.

Furthermore the same parameters that were used to decrease the pump prices are the same that were used to increase the same.
The problem we have here is that both the media and world bank and many Kenyas alike are using the Brent Crude prices as a benchmark to evaluate the Kenyan pump prices. Wch is fundamentaly wrong!!
The ONLY benchmark or reference that should be applied is the PLATTS Market Scan for finished white oils which is published daily in the international markets.

Kenya stopped refining crude oil in 2012 and all our fuel needs are imported from the international markets.
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Jimmy Boy
SittingPretty
#150 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:40:05 PM
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Jimmy Boy wrote:
The pricing mechanisim used by the ERC is very transparent and fair I do not see anything sinister.

Furthermore the same parameters that were used to decrease the pump prices are the same that were used to increase the same.
The problem we have here is that both the media and world bank and many Kenyas alike are using the Brent Crude prices as a benchmark to evaluate the Kenyan pump prices. Wch is fundamentaly wrong!!
The ONLY benchmark or reference that should be applied is the PLATTS Market Scan for finished white oils which is published daily in the international markets.

Kenya stopped refining crude oil in 2012 and all our fuel needs are imported from the international markets.


@Jimmy boy Kenyans are a had lot to reason with. The saddest part is the media plays has also been good at misinforming the public. I use this for a quick glance https://www.theice.com/index
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