It's sad when @AlphDoti resorts to arguments such as the above. Now and then one gets the feeling that he isn't after the truth as such, but after some convinient reason to keep the anti Muslim, anti Christian, anti Kikuyu, anti Western tensions alive. The same things he accuses others of doing.

So if humanity is so incapable of 'disinterested' action, why shouldn't everyone grab a machete and embrace genocide and plunder like in CAR? http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201441213742873612

Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.

kenya iko mahali hapa chini

At under 2% of population, members are a peace-loving minority and not a threat to other citizens.

United States -- 0.6%
Australia -- 1.5%
Canada -- 1.9%
China -- 1.8%
Italy -- 1.5%
Norway -- 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, proselytize from other ethnic minorities, disaffected groups, marginalize areas often with major recruiting from jails, street gangs or slums.

Denmark -- 2%
Germany -- 3.7%
United Kingdom -- 2.7%
Spain -- 4%
Thailand -- 4.6%

At 5%, inordinate influence in proportion to percentage of population. For example, push for the introduction of kadhi courts, push for halal food, increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves with boycott threats for failure to comply.

France -- 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- 5%
Switzerland -- 4.3%
The Netherlands -- 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- 5.8%

At 10%, start to advocate for some Sharia law within some zones, increase lawlessness as means of complaint. See Paris car-burnings. Actions offending the faith result in uprisings and threats e.g. certain cartoons and films. 'Moderates' call violence the action of radical few but avoid directly or specifically condemning extremists since they secretly acknowledge them as their brothers in the faith. 'Moderates' protest state action on extremists.

Guyana -- 10%
India -- 13.4%
Israel -- 16%
Kenya -- 10%
Russia -- 15%

At 20%, hair-trigger rioting, militia formation, sporadic killings, and attacks on Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist places of worship. At 30%, nations experience secession threats, insurgencies, massacres, terror attacks or militia warfare. Drive for Sharia law zones continues.

Ethiopia -- 32.8%
Nigeria -- 45%
Bosnia -- 40%
Chad -- 53.1%
Lebanon -- 59.7%

At 60%, nations experience persecution of non-believers of other religions (including non-conformist Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing, push for nationwide Sharia Law and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels.

Albania -- 70%
Malaysia -- 60.4%
Qatar -- 77.5%
Former Sudan -- 70%

At 80%, intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing as nations oppress the infidels.

Bangladesh -- 83%
Egypt -- 90%
Gaza -- 98.7%
Indonesia -- 86.1%
Iran -- 98%
Iraq -- 97%
Jordan -- 92%
Morocco -- 98.7%
Pakistan -- 97%
Palestine -- 99%
Syria -- 90%
Tajikistan -- 90%
Turkey -- 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- 96%

At 100%, everybody is converted and lives under Sharia Law. But radicals intimidate, oppress or kill moderates. Sunni versus Shia conflicts.

Afghanistan -- 100%
Saudi Arabia -- 100%
Somalia -- 100%
Yemen -- 100%
Bahrain -- 100%

You are exactly right. You won't see me soon supporting extra judicial killings.

But at the same time, you won't see me supporting a mungiki blatantly and blaming religion for persecution.

The gov't may be wrong in how it works....but it is people like Alphdoti who make you wonder, exactly how deeply rooted is this issue of terrorism?

Its like when you have hair lice. You may love your hair even the pubic hair. but you know after sometime you really have to remove ALL the hair.

If Alphdoti has trained 50 people into Islam and the quotes he's made above, then I would support his being investigated.

I wonder if he says this in a public forum, what does he tell his 50 converts in secrecy?

And that is NOT persecuting Islam. That is investigating someone who seems to have a chip in his shoulder.

That is why all three religions agree that it is only the Messiah who can provide that peace and excellence...

guru any sane person must question especially a gov't that says the mboys exchanged fire and people died.

But what Alphdoti is saying on the other hand is not questioning. He is saying authoritatively.

Then he says Kikuyus are doing this, so that they can remove muslims. He says ALL christians worship the wrong God. He says ALL christians are not clean.

That is a sign of a sick fellow and one of the signs of a terrorist.

That is stupidity.

He should have said, Mr. so and so is doing it.

But he's painted all the Kikuyus just as he hates all the muslims being painted. Infact, if you look at his statements on this forum, he's the one who paints ALL muslims in a certain way.

We are being persecuted is a statement made usually by someone who's a bit guilty.

I should know. I use it all the time when I'm caught looking at a womans behind. I have to tell my wife that ALL women are just jelous. Kumbe....

I have some gut feeling this Alphshaabab fellow is a mole in this forum, an agent for a terrorist cell... he is soon getting reckless and careless. Be warned......

@tycho you are very philosophical but when was the last time you opened a Holy Book??

The first coming of the Messiah wasn't for saving any group of people.. That's why he rode into Jerusalem with a donkey... He was just here to spread the Gospel!

However when the Messiah returns he will be in a totally different light! It is said a baby will play with a snake without any danger... It is said there will be abundance in every land.....

I CAN'T WAIT!!!

Doesn't Messiah mean liberator/saviour?? This world is definitely in need of some liberating! Too much hunger, death, greed, immorality etc

Again the coming of the Messiah will be clear for all to see.... He will descend to Damascus with angels!

It will be totally impossible to fake that!

@alma you say people have been waiting for millions of years... Really??

The Messiah was predicted by Isaiah in like 800 BC.. Thats not millions of years

The people's Messiah came to them in 0-33 AD

The Messiah said he would return soon given certain events like earthqaukes, Israel chaos, global chaos etc etc..

Here we are in 2014 AD with the said events and you still want to deny his imminent return??

Not to get religious but Islam does believe in evolution.. For example the qur'an does recognize an expanding universe, the big bang and the changing stature of Adams sons!

We even believe that another race existed on earth before us that was wiped out.. (Think dinosaurs)

We still believe it was God who caused evolution!

And the evolution does not refute the coming of the Messiah.. We have proved self destructive as a human race and in need of a supernatural Savior!