This has killed it!!! Wenger alitoka na point moja tu...

Van Perse "Well....we didn't play very CLEVERLY. I tried to get the ball WELBACK near the goal but my teammates ROONIED my plan. This isn't a very YOUNG team so I know you expect us to play better EVRA time but that's football. The result really makes me JANUSIGH…"

C&P from ESPN comments by fans....

I would like the Moyes-defenders to join in a debate with me of why you want to keep Moyes and I would give you my counter point. I will start my arguments :

1. He has brought nothing positive of note to this team since the beginning, whether be it tactics, substitutions, transfers etc. The rise of Januzaj is in spite of him, not because of him.

2. His dealing with the current team has been nothing but disastrous : put fat rooney as the key player when he has been doing nothing but unsettling the club, isolated the old guards of Rio and Vida, misused creative players like Kagawa and Mata, overused useless players like Cleverley, Young, Valencia, put a heavy training that make injuries prevalen (this one is very debatable i know).

3. Moyes-defenders have always called to give him time, but even Alex Ferguson bought time with his first full season in charge by finishing 2nd with a bunch of alcoholic, over the hill players. He also had a CV full of trophies to back up his claims for rebuilding process.

4. People will be given time but first they have to prove themselves by doing the job with what you already have. Nobody in the right mind will invest millions in you if you can't do a a half decent job with the resources you are provided. Moyes inherited a team of champions. The least he could do is to win simple games against the most inferior opponents. Instead he broke record after record and help teams who had not tasted success against us for decades look like lion-tamers. Don't give me the excuse that this is not his team. You won't get paid if you tell your boss that because this company and other team members are not who you want to hire, thats why you cannot perform. Moyes' best attribute was to manage with what he was provided. Now it seem he can't even do that.

5. He is a nice guy but does not have enough presence and charisma to convince the players, the supporters and the press to support him. What are with all the comments about "we don't know what we have to do to win" and "unlucky" and "we played well and we didn't deserve to lose"? I actually can't rmb the last time we played half-decent football that can convince people that we were worthy winners.

6. He has always come up short when it matters most.

7. He IS unlucky. Not that he deserves to win but when it is 50-50, he always gets the wrong side of the coin. And that is no good



Totally agree with this fella 100%

There were only 2 coaches who could have guaranteed United instant success after Sir Alex, ie Mourhino and Guardiola. Its like Sir Alex tried to convince Guardiola but did not succeed while the United board was dead set against Mourhino. Where will they get a world class coach now given that most have long term contracts with their current clubs?

Guardiola was game but Man United were contacted him late. By the time Sir Alex talked to him he was already in advanced talks with Bayern. Given his principles, he could not shaft them just because there was a new offer on the table!

My shortlist for the next Man United manager

1) Diego Simeone
2) Jurgen Klopp

We can also squeeze 3 more years out of SAF but that might not be the best idea. Man United has to survive post SAF!! Even if he comes back, he will still retire at one point - again! And he might also not want to mess his record/reputation just in case he comes back and the second stint is a disaster. It would only make sense if he's holding brief for a manager who has agreed to eventually move to Man United but is currently unavailable because of contractual issues.

But Isorite for us, As we believe he's a genius coach.
Please give him time.