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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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I want to say something to the Muslims.
Our way of life is great. It is admirable by many. Even the non-Muslims. If you read about the writings of great non-Muslim professors, they praise Islam as system. Look at the way it ruled the world in the early times for hundreds of years (refer to history)
But when somebody kills innocent people, innocent child, or innocent woman, and say Allah akbar, that is not Islam. Islam says do not kill innocent person, do not kill child, do not kill woman, but if you shoot and say allah akbar, then you'll go to hell.
People are coexisting peacefully. Christians, Muslims, HIndus, atheists etc... But anybody who kills you illegally, then this will attract a reaction.
What do we need to do?
1. First, no apologies to the goverment. I read some people in the governement asking for an apology for recent attacks. How can they ask this? Muslims are not party to it.
2. Secondly, let us educate our children. We know the so called Al-Shab can recruit them and take advantage of their lack of knowledge. And then a parent will get surprised when his/her sees his/her child on TV.
3. This is for our media. Please, stop exageration. Linking everything to Islam. What about other crimes done by other people before, say slavery etc
That's all I have to say this evening.
Peace!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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@Alphadoty, those 'Christians' you so accuse never invoke Christianity as they carry out their heinous acts. Also looking for a response why youths from the mosque proceeded to burn a church yet the Muslim preacher was allegedly shot by police. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:@Alphadoty, those 'Christians' you so accuse never invoke Christianity as they carry out their heinous acts.
Also looking for a response why youths from the mosque proceeded to burn a church yet the Muslim preacher was allegedly shot by police. cowards, why attack and set fire to a church.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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McReggae wrote:@Alphadoty, those 'Christians' you so accuse never invoke Christianity as they carry out their heinous acts.
Also looking for a response why youths from the mosque proceeded to burn a church yet the Muslim preacher was allegedly shot by police. Valid questions. If muslims are so 'pure' why do they dish out revenge? isn't that Allah's prerogative? And why always against Christians? For all you know it could have been a Jew/Hindu/Buddhist/Atheist gunman. Why are they wanton slayers of Christians, given any slight excuse?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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The preachers should have been slaughtered and their bodies burnt with pig fat and their remains if any fed to dogs.They killed my close friend at Westgate,no need of wasting time clogging our court system.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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AlphDoti wrote:
Let us respect each other. I say that this issue of saying some individuals are this or that because of their religious background is unfair.
Let's be objective. I am saying a criminal is a criminal. A sinner is a sinner. It does not matter which camp you are in.
Yes it is true that some Muslims themselves are responsible for some of the distortions about Islam. Some of the misconceptions about Islam is as a result of the misbehaviour of some Msulims. And that is to be fair and objective.
But targeting some people for harassment, for illegal arrests, for detention and now killing.
And now Wazuans, the club of great mindsm are supporting these killings because those being killed are not one of their own. I say this is hypocracy.
And when somebody speaks up about these, you turn around and say "so and so is a simpathyzer".
Are people here now saying they are in support of governments who go around killing people without trial?
Can we now say the judiciary has no functions? Everybody should be the police, the judge and executer?
Its quite hypocritical of you to find fault with the government for slaying the clerics, but yet you didn't find any wrong when the clerics were preaching war against Kenya. You made a valid point that govt shouldn't get support for killing suspects without a fair trial, but in the same breathe you didn't speak out against the clerics when they were spreading propaganda and potentially destabilizing the country. This victim mentality is what's annoying!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,734
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http://standardmedia.co....after-cleric-s-shooting
Part of the story in standard...."Intelligence sources told The Standard On Saturday that Sheikh Ibrahim — alias Rogo alias Amour — was killed “in order to disrupt a major terrorist attack in Mombasa this weekend.” In mid July, the National Intelligence Service (NIS) accused Sheikh Ibrahim of activating the so-called Mtopanga cell of al-Shabaab and of inviting four newly trained jihadists from Somalia into Mombasa to plot a bombing campaign in the coastal city and Nairobi to avenge last year’s killing of Sheikh Aboud Rogo". Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2011 Posts: 208 Location: humu humu
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Nabwire wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
Let us respect each other. I say that this issue of saying some individuals are this or that because of their religious background is unfair.
Let's be objective. I am saying a criminal is a criminal. A sinner is a sinner. It does not matter which camp you are in.
Yes it is true that some Muslims themselves are responsible for some of the distortions about Islam. Some of the misconceptions about Islam is as a result of the misbehaviour of some Msulims. And that is to be fair and objective.
But targeting some people for harassment, for illegal arrests, for detention and now killing.
And now Wazuans, the club of great mindsm are supporting these killings because those being killed are not one of their own. I say this is hypocracy.
And when somebody speaks up about these, you turn around and say "so and so is a simpathyzer".
Are people here now saying they are in support of governments who go around killing people without trial?
Can we now say the judiciary has no functions? Everybody should be the police, the judge and executer?
Its quite hypocritical of you to find fault with the government for slaying the clerics, but yet you didn't find any wrong when the clerics were preaching war against Kenya. You made a valid point that govt shouldn't get support for killing suspects without a fair trial, but in the same breathe you didn't speak out against the clerics when they were spreading propaganda and potentially destabilizing the country. This victim mentality is what's annoying! cool down pple..who said its the govt that killed them? I think we r now headed precisely where the alshabab wants us proper. Religious divisions and hate!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Pedes wrote:Amores wrote:Pedes wrote:They killed 69.
4 of them gunned down.
Wazuans, this war will not be won through body count.
It may come to that,to hammer sense in some brainwashed heads. You think the ATP and other forces are worried about bodies? seriously? We should use intelligence to fight terrorism not a hammering sense into heads. why don't you go tell terrorists to use intelligence instead of killing innocent children?....You are disgusting to say the least! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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Al kebabs wakikosana and start outing themselves you start blaming sirkal Listen to Kitur denying his Mboyz did not exchange fire with anybody  Kama iko na evidence peleka yeye na use me ulitoa wapi kijana   Is it true what is reported that Macemetry took away the bodies and buried them in secret graves @ 3am. "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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