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Mumias Sugar huge demand
mwekez@ji
#281 Posted : Monday, September 02, 2013 9:54:05 PM
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A coverage note on Mumias Sugar by Sterling Capital says that poaching has cost Kenya’s biggest miller, Mumias Sugar, Sh7 billion in the last two years and the problem does not look like it will end soon.

... also notice competition coming soon from Kwale International Sugar Company Limited (Kiscol) >>>

Kiscol has 20,000 acres in the coastal region, which better suited for cane growing due to the shorter maturity period over cane grown in the western Kenya sugar belt. The project is expected to be completed by mid-2014 and analysts say that it will catalyse competition in the industry.

“We expect the entry of the giant Mauritian sugar Miller, Omnicane, to the Kenya Sugar industry to intensify competition in the market,” said the coverage note.

Kenya has a total installed factory crushing capacity of 30,109 tonnes of cane- per- day which is slightly above Kiscol’s capacity on completion. Omnicane’s experience is also expected to benefit Kiscol.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....26/-/d0veo8/-/index.html
georgegop
#282 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:05:20 AM
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What does the future hold for Mumias or cant this giant Omnicane just acquire it?!
Don't Work for Money, Let Money Work for You..
VituVingiSana
#283 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:54:14 AM
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georgegop wrote:
What does the future hold for Mumias or cant this giant Omnicane just acquire it?!
Omnicane is NOT interested in dealing with Mumias Outgrowers. Firms like Omnicane prefer planting on their own land [or large nucleus estates] to manage their supply & quality of cane. The costs of dealing with many [small] outgrowers is not worth the trouble.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#284 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 1:36:02 AM
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Politicians and a religious leader in Kakamega County have demanded the sacking of the Mumias Sugar Company boss after the miller incurred a Sh1.6 billion loss.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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streetwise
#285 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:16:20 AM
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I see the price improving why ?
nahdy
#286 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:49:12 AM
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could be comesa extension soon...
mwekez@ji
#287 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 1:40:40 PM
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@streetwise,

Mumias Sugar to receive KES 500.0m from Government of Kenya

Mumias Sugar will this week receive KES 500.0m from the Government of Kenya to support its operations. The funds will be used to clear debts owed to sugarcane farmers who have supplied the miller. This aims to support Mumias Sugar’s financial performance which has been subdued by a shortage of raw sugarcane, a decline in ex-factory prices and increased finance costs. The Government of Kenya owns a 20.0% stake in Mumias Sugar. (Source; Daily Nation, Kestrel Research)
mv_ufanisi
#288 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 4:22:41 PM
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This is a stock whose value could go to zero. As in from something to nothing.
VituVingiSana
#289 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 4:58:35 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
This is a stock whose value could go to zero. As in from something to nothing.
Taking money from the government? This is going to be nasty as politicians have a field day.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Gordon Gekko
#290 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:44:47 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
This is a stock whose value could go to zero. As in from something to nothing.
Taking money from the government? This is going to be nasty as politicians have a field day.


What are the terms for this loan? 500M is a tidy sum.
nahdy
#291 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:01:08 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
This is a stock whose value could go to zero. As in from something to nothing.
Taking money from the government? This is going to be nasty as politicians have a field day.


What are the terms for this loan? 500M is a tidy sum.


I still feel there will be a rally on this stock when the comesa ext. is approved.
streetwise
#292 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:05:29 AM
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watching. However traditionally unless things become very thick the govt does not let such companies collapse. Except KMC may be let to go.

Now to jog minds, remember KQ @6 , went as far as 140...remember NBK at 3.00 went as far as 75...may be someone else has additional examples

chaimani
#293 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:52:58 PM
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Directors vow to reverse Loss


http://www.nation.co.ke/...68/-/4md94l/-/index.html
chasing after the wind
King G
#294 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:01:40 PM
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streetwise wrote:
watching. However traditionally unless things become very thick the govt does not let such companies collapse. Except KMC may be let to go.

Now to jog minds, remember KQ @6 , went as far as 140...remember NBK at 3.00 went as far as 75...may be someone else has additional examples



KPLC @7 went mpaka 280
Thieves
VituVingiSana
#295 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:14:58 PM
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[quote=chaimani]Directors vow to reverse Loss


http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/4md94l/-/index.html[/quote] And every one of Kenya's presidents vowed to end hunger & poverty
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#296 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:37:04 PM
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The COMESA safeguards are set to expire in March. 2 months from now. What will happen to MUMIAS.
When dust settles(or while its settling) this thing may be worth a BUY
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
streetwise
#297 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 6:18:47 PM
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If I were Mumias, I would also import the cheap sugar from Comesa and compete with the other players while still selling power and water as by products for the expensive sugar I produce

Aguytrying
#298 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:01:46 PM
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@The deal. I've just read your analysis on mumias in August 2013. it is brilliant, very good work. you even predicted the share dipping to 3.50 and the loss you predicted was close to the true loss.

my interest in this company has been sparked funnily enough by your fellow contrarian, half yr results are in jan or feb where surely there will be a recovery otherwise the kakamega mps and religious leaders will oust kebati.

risk of the comesa safe guards being lifted. with gov gearing to tightening the laws for importers of sugar. it looks like the safeguards really will be lifted.

opportunities for mumias is taking over smaller millers, and when mumias improves the efficiency this year, it will be back to profits. we have to hope the Gok will tighten the importation rules to protect mumias. yes hope
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
the deal
#299 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:41:17 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@The deal. I've just read your analysis on mumias in August 2013. it is brilliant, very good work. you even predicted the share dipping to 3.50 and the loss you predicted was close to the true loss.

my interest in this company has been sparked funnily enough by your fellow contrarian, half yr results are in jan or feb where surely there will be a recovery otherwise the kakamega mps and religious leaders will oust kebati.

risk of the comesa safe guards being lifted. with gov gearing to tightening the laws for importers of sugar. it looks like the safeguards really will be lifted.

opportunities for mumias is taking over smaller millers, and when mumias improves the efficiency this year, it will be back to profits. we have to hope the Gok will tighten the importation rules to protect mumias. yes hope

They got a bail out from GoK so that should sort out their working capital needs..they might bounce back but the future doesnt look good...so its a very speculative counter...sugar output has rebounded...I believe the factory was busier in H1 2014 than H1 2013 but sugar prices have tumbled...cheap imports are also making it difficult for MSC to move stock...so if you are buying put a stop loss of like 15-20%...the higher the risk the higher the return smile
young
#300 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:23:55 PM
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My thoughts,
The bail out of 500m bob shows GOK Is
interested in mumias survival.
MUMIAS has a great chance of becoming
another UCHUMI
- If it overcomes comesa hurdle
- Have a good technocrat as CEO
- Pursue vigorously their product diversification
drive.

Those that buy now may turn out to be
a good gamble. But count me out it is
not my kind of counter.
Good luck to the risk takers .
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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