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Liv
#281 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:26:00 AM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...




@Maka,
Excellent...spot on.... Well done.
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#282 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:36:41 AM
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Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...




@Maka,
Excellent...spot on.... Well done.


smile Asante...I like the way auctions are done under PN....information dessimantion is equal...everyone knows the results once they posted on the CBK website...a while back things were bad,top brokers knew new offerings and results way ahead of other fellows
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#283 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:59:04 AM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...




@Maka,
Excellent...spot on.... Well done.


smile Asante...I like the way auctions are done under PN....information dessimantion is equal...everyone knows the results once they posted on the CBK website...a while back things were bad,top brokers knew new offerings and results way ahead of other fellows

Soo true. The digital team at CBK is switched on

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Liv
#284 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:41:17 AM
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13.177% is high being all net of tax.
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#285 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:50:26 PM
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GoK is behind schedule in its domestic borrowing targets and they finished paying back their overdraft loan for the last financial year. With external funding proving difficult, there should be lots of activity on this front coupled by an uptick in rates.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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#286 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 4:40:33 PM
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Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns
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maka
#287 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 5:59:19 PM
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Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Cutoff might have been as high as 13.55%
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#288 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:12:45 PM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Cutoff might have been as high as 13.55%

Where do you get the the market Intel from?
chakacrafts(at)email.com tafasali...
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maka
#289 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 9:06:28 PM
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Chaka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Cutoff might have been as high as 13.55%

Where do you get the the market Intel from?
chakacrafts(at)email.com tafasali...


Fiti will have a chat shortly....
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Liv
#290 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 12:51:46 AM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns



I thought 13.177 % is net as IFB have zero tax on them?
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maka
#291 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 5:12:37 AM
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Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns



I thought 13.177 % is net as IFB have zero tax on them?


At 13.177 you pay 93.529 for every 100..

12/93.529 × 100 =
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#292 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 9:31:26 AM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns



I thought 13.177 % is net as IFB have zero tax on them?


At 13.177 you pay 93.529 for every 100..

12/93.529 × 100 =


This one looks like it went well. Good call maka!
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Liv
#293 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 9:43:41 AM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns



I thought 13.177 % is net as IFB have zero tax on them?


At 13.177 you pay 93.529 for every 100..

12/93.529 × 100 =



Right.... Grossed up 15% and 10% tax would be 15.09 and 14.25 respectively .

Cutoff was 13.40
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#294 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 10:01:14 AM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns


By net u mean this thing was being taxed?
Unatuchanganya sana.

Mara tax free,halafu sijui net.
Sad
Portfolio: Sold
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MadDoc
#295 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 10:47:40 AM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns


By net u mean this thing was being taxed?
Unatuchanganya sana.

Mara tax free,halafu sijui net.
Sad


Confused pia. Please clarify on the taxes applicable
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maka
#296 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 10:53:43 AM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns


By net u mean this thing was being taxed?
Unatuchanganya sana.

Mara tax free,halafu sijui net.
Sad


Ulijibonda sana Wednesday....coupon is paid on the 100 and not on 93.52...with the that in mind what's your actual rate of return?
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#297 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 11:00:29 AM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:

13.177% is high being all net of tax.


Comes to around 12.83% Net...good returns


By net u mean this thing was being taxed?
Unatuchanganya sana.

Mara tax free,halafu sijui net.
Sad


Ulijibonda sana Wednesday....coupon is paid on the 100 and not on 93.52...with the that in mind what's your actual rate of return?


If I buy now at the secondary market will I get the coupon rate?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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#298 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 11:03:16 AM
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@maka na his forthcoming bond in November will it be IF or kawaida taxed bond?
Portfolio: Sold
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maka
#299 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 11:27:31 AM
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Impunity wrote:
@maka na his forthcoming bond in November will it be IF or kawaida taxed bond?


Kawaida they cant do 2 IFBs zikifuatana...
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#300 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 11:30:49 AM
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