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Marende gives verdict
The General
#141 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:58:00 AM
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@ ecstacy,B. Timer,Mr Tea,Brewer

I insist. What brings yal to the same opinion so strongly.




The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
Brewer
#142 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:59:00 AM
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obi,am so relieved. i will wait for law and order to triumph. i can now pen off on this one.
Mr.Tea
#143 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:00:00 AM
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When we let loose our emotional selves and fail to let reason prevail,I guess we will keep arriving at incongruent conclusions. That the constitution is supreme and all other laws are inferior to it (including the Accord,that is why it had to be anchored in the Constitution) is a matter of common knowledge to most. Advancing an argument to the contrary can only be interpreted as the height intellectual hypocrisy. Lets also agree here and now that Marende's decision is a transient measure seeking to prevent despondence,fear and acrimony in society which may end up occuring anyway if the big boys sit and do nothing in the meantime. If I am wrong on thisone then surrender is a wise option at this point.

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
ecstacy
#144 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:12:00 AM
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I agree...there is 'peace' today let's not 'disturb' that...tomorrow will be a better day or worse as I don't know the referee then when the Principals disagree on anything. Who knows what we'll use to settle major differences? the Constitution? The National Accord? the loudest mouths? the envoys? Koffi Annan? I 'agree'...lets rely on the spirit of teh Raila Odingas of today and Mwai Kibaki's on the day to live and conduct business. 'Screw the laws of the land'.

and we wonder why Agenda 4 has never been tackled? ...
B.Timer
#145 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:57:00 AM
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The rule of law,period.

There is no alternative to the rule of law in civilsed society.
Arguing that decisions are made to placate certain sections of society is defeatist.
Taking that option where do you stop. So from now,ad infinitum rulings should be made after running a barometer around the streets to see what the ignorant layabouts want.

Since thinking is free I try to think which informs the basis upon which I disagree with Marende's position on this matter.
If everybody else took free thinking as an option and took time off to look at the relevant laws they would draw their own informed conclusions as I do.
Those who are happy to sit and wait to be chaperoned around,well it is their choice.
I guess their greatest motivation for slowing their thinking brain cells is that - since the enigma has decided/accepted,you cant dare see it any other way.
For me it doesnt matter what Kibaki,Kalonzo,or any body else thinks.
My brain is not appendaged to theirs.
That is the beauty of mental liberty,something that our brothers and sisters dont enjoy.
One day they shall overcome,or so we hope.

B.timer
Dunia ni msongamano..
The General
#146 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:58:00 AM
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@ ecstacy,Brewer,Mr Tea,

So in summation,you are telling us that there are no details that can be made available to you that would make you change your opinion on The Speakers ruling?

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
B.Timer
#147 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:06:00 AM
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Give me those details.
If they are sensible I will change my position here and now.

B.timer
Dunia ni msongamano..
The General
#148 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:22:00 AM
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Have you engaged a legal team,like he has,to hear other perspectives to the scenario?



The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
B.Timer
#149 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:37:00 AM
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Were there other perspectives other than what he read out for about an hour,which pointed to the right position anyway.
You see when you deliver a ruling you give out all the background details from which you drew your conclusion.

B.timer
Dunia ni msongamano..
Obi 1 Kanobi
#150 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:40:00 AM
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@B.Timer,

It is possible that you can interpret the law better than all those people I listed in my post below,but,whta are the chances; 1 in 1million? or 1 in 10,000 even 1 in 100 is still very remote.

It is also possible that the entire group I listed are part of a conspiracy to deny kenya the rule of law,but again,the odds are razor thin.

This misrule of law that you keep talking on about here is in your mind.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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