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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#14971 Posted : Friday, July 03, 2020 9:33:03 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,231
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Lakini, I have to say, if there is one person who has been LOYAL, it is @Obiero to KQ, from pushing Ngunze's agenda to the current management/board.

Even I did not defend KK like this.

Ngunze ate his millions and left.
As will the others with zero skin in the game.

It hurts me that my taxes will bailout out a dead horse BUT I am happy for @Obiero. May he choose better next time.
We learn from our mistakes. I have had many lessons from ARM to KQ.

Good luck @Obiero.

Enjoyed the turbulent journey and I am at peace with the personal decision to average down.. Keep safe @VituVisanga

muandiwambeu
#14972 Posted : Saturday, July 04, 2020 3:28:23 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Lakini, I have to say, if there is one person who has been LOYAL, it is @Obiero to KQ, from pushing Ngunze's agenda to the current management/board.

Even I did not defend KK like this.

Ngunze ate his millions and left.
As will the others with zero skin in the game.

It hurts me that my taxes will bailout out a dead horse BUT I am happy for @Obiero. May he choose better next time.
We learn from our mistakes. I have had many lessons from ARM to KQ.

Good luck @Obiero.

Enjoyed the turbulent journey and I am at peace with the personal decision to average down.. Keep safe @VituVisanga

What next??????
I fear boredomness while kqueer is awaySad Sad Sad
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
VituVingiSana
#14973 Posted : Saturday, July 04, 2020 7:20:33 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,353
Location: Nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Lakini, I have to say, if there is one person who has been LOYAL, it is @Obiero to KQ, from pushing Ngunze's agenda to the current management/board.

Even I did not defend KK like this.

Ngunze ate his millions and left.
As will the others with zero skin in the game.

It hurts me that my taxes will bailout out a dead horse BUT I am happy for @Obiero. May he choose better next time.
We learn from our mistakes. I have had many lessons from ARM to KQ.

Good luck @Obiero.

Enjoyed the turbulent journey and I am at peace with the personal decision to average down.. Keep safe @VituVisanga

What next??????
I fear boredomness while kqueer is awaySad Sad Sad

Mumias, HAFR, Sameer, NBV among other crap! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
peep
#14974 Posted : Saturday, July 04, 2020 9:11:30 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/30/2009
Posts: 56
Before the state buyout, they should return our shares that were wiped out last year by over 70%.
After the buyout, the new owner should:
1. Sack everyone (especially the pilots) then recruit afresh at much lower rates. There's a glut of airline staff in the world now
2. Ban all new recruits from membership to unions
3. Cancel all the deals with the SPVs sitting in between KQ and Boeing. These leaches are draining the airline. I hear that they are not at the Boeing HQ, but here with us.
4. Review fuel contracts
Angelica _ann
#14975 Posted : Saturday, July 04, 2020 9:54:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
VituVingiSana wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Lakini, I have to say, if there is one person who has been LOYAL, it is @Obiero to KQ, from pushing Ngunze's agenda to the current management/board.

Even I did not defend KK like this.

Ngunze ate his millions and left.
As will the others with zero skin in the game.

It hurts me that my taxes will bailout out a dead horse BUT I am happy for @Obiero. May he choose better next time.
We learn from our mistakes. I have had many lessons from ARM to KQ.

Good luck @Obiero.

Enjoyed the turbulent journey and I am at peace with the personal decision to average down.. Keep safe @VituVisanga

What next??????
I fear boredomness while kqueer is awaySad Sad Sad

Mumias, HAFR, Sameer, NBV among other crap! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


HFCK smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#14976 Posted : Saturday, July 04, 2020 11:53:23 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,809
Location: NAIROBI
maka wrote:
If no money comes from the Govt and we don't start flying ...The last salary that employees will have got is end of June... No more cash for any type of payment.....


Kenya airways plc started a three month round ofjob cuts as lawmakers debate a bill to nationalize the carrier and it's losses mount due to the impact of the Corona virus pandemic.
The process is expected to be completed by September 30
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
essyk
#14977 Posted : Sunday, July 05, 2020 3:01:03 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,518
kq cargo

Discuss.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
ArrestedDev
#14978 Posted : Sunday, July 05, 2020 10:19:59 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
If no money comes from the Govt and we don't start flying ...The last salary that employees will have got is end of June... No more cash for any type of payment.....


Kenya airways plc started a three month round ofjob cuts as lawmakers debate a bill to nationalize the carrier and it's losses mount due to the impact of the Corona virus pandemic.
The process is expected to be completed by September 30


I said herein long ago that job cuts are inevitable and Kilavuka was just prolonging the problem.

Total lack of leadership.
ArrestedDev
#14979 Posted : Sunday, July 05, 2020 10:23:28 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
peep wrote:
Before the state buyout, they should return our shares that were wiped out last year by over 70%.
After the buyout, the new owner should:
1. Sack everyone (especially the pilots) then recruit afresh at much lower rates. There's a glut of airline staff in the world now
2. Ban all new recruits from membership to unions
3. Cancel all the deals with the SPVs sitting in between KQ and Boeing. These leaches are draining the airline. I hear that they are not at the Boeing HQ, but here with us.
4. Review fuel contracts



Nothing will change. Staff are not to blame. The management is to blame. Even the new CEO is as clueless as one can imagine. He is holding brief for the cartels. They will now have the space to loot very well once it is a fully government entity.

KQ is done and dusted. This thread should be closed.
muandiwambeu
#14980 Posted : Sunday, July 05, 2020 11:02:07 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
ArrestedDev wrote:
peep wrote:
Before the state buyout, they should return our shares that were wiped out last year by over 70%.
After the buyout, the new owner should:
1. Sack everyone (especially the pilots) then recruit afresh at much lower rates. There's a glut of airline staff in the world now
2. Ban all new recruits from membership to unions
3. Cancel all the deals with the SPVs sitting in between KQ and Boeing. These leaches are draining the airline. I hear that they are not at the Boeing HQ, but here with us.
4. Review fuel contracts



Nothing will change. Staff are not to blame. The management is to blame. Even the new CEO is as clueless as one can imagine. He is holding brief for the cartels. They will now have the space to loot very well once it is a fully government entity.

KQ is done and dusted. This thread should be closed.

Who is best of the morticians to do the rites, but it's too sad for our dear brothers and sisters how will have to live with the loss of their livelihoods for having dearly believed in the mawingu and other stories to an extent of having their ninis badly multilatered at the hads of a less caring government and enabled institutions.
Poleni saaaaana. A good managers reputation will in the long run, get dented in an industry with bad reputation. So do not give an excuse that you had the best of drivers at the helm.
Warren Buffet wins once again stands the test of tym. So as you continue getting hitched onto your new partners, know who you are trusting your heads with.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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